P-51 w/ 10 HVAR loadout

[Tinkles]

If you give them more crap to carry it will slow them down.  

Too bad it isn't mandatory     

[SmokinLoon]

Anything that increases the number of P-51Ds is probably not a good thing at this time.

 

Indeed. 

[Mongoose]

Also, why can't we get the P-38 loadouts w/ 6 500lbers or 2x1000 + 4x500 lbers? Although it is true I'd hate to see what the Bish B-38 hordes would do with that

  Or two 2000 pound bombs.   

[Drane]

Also, why can't we get the P-38 loadouts w/ 6 500lbers or 2x1000 + 4x500 lbers? Although it is true I'd hate to see what the Bish B-38 hordes would do with that

what entertainment that would be. Imagine sitting in field gun saying..."give that one a 7 out of 10 on the auger scale!"
 

[jeffdn]

I found a picture of the P38 w/ 6x500 lbers about 1/2 down this page: http://usaircraft.proboards.com/thread/4404/51s-47s-38s

There's a Jug with 20mm gun pods on that page as well... that could be fun. That's twice the firepower of a P-38!

[wpeters]

Also, why can't we get the P-38 loadouts w/ 6 500lbers or 2x1000 + 4x500 lbers? Although it is true I'd hate to see what the Bish B-38 hordes would do with that

(I found a picture of the P38 w/ 6x500 lbers about 1/2 down this page: http://usaircraft.proboards.com/thread/4404/51s-47s-38s

I have  been reading about that. The max bomb load of p-38 L was 4,000 lbs.   Not ofton done due to range in the pacific.  Internal fuel in a 38 was often not enough to get to the target and home safely, thus this was uncommen but by no means not heard of. Was used in ground attack supporting grunts...  

I am talking about the 4 1000lbs or 6 5000lbs.   I dont believe a 2000lbs would fit on the 38

 Could we please have.

[waystin2]

B-17WW!

[Ack-Ack]

   I dont believe a 2000lbs would fit on the 38

They do.  I've posted in other threads pictures of P-38s on the flight line getting ready to take off for a mission loaded with 2x 2,000 pound bombs.  Some of the pictures were P-38s in the ETO and another was a P-38 in the PTO.

This is one with a P-38 loaded with a 2,000 pound bomb in the ETO.


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[SmokinLoon]

They do.  I've posted in other threads pictures of P-38s on the flight line getting ready to take off for a mission loaded with 2x 2,000 pound bombs.  Some of the pictures were P-38s in the ETO and another was a P-38 in the PTO.

This is one with a P-38 loaded with a 2,000 pound bomb in the ETO.
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ack-ack

I wonder what the climb rate would be with another 2000 lbs of weight added?  It has to be worse than the P40N loaded with 3/500 lb bombs.  Probably a wee bit better actually, it certainly cant be any worse. 

[FLOOB]

P51s are the biggest source of perk points in the ma. I'm surprised people don't want more of them.

[Ack-Ack]

I wonder what the climb rate would be with another 2000 lbs of weight added?  It has to be worse than the P40N loaded with 3/500 lb bombs.  Probably a wee bit better actually, it certainly cant be any worse. 

Don't know, good question.  I've also wondered whether or not P-38s dove bomb with this load out.  The only references I've seen with the 2,000 pound bombs were missions where the P-38s, along with Droop Snoops leading the formations, leveled bomb.  In those missions, the Droop Snoops would be the flight leaders and the regular P-38s would then drop on the Droop Snoop's bombardier's command or when the Droop Snoop dropped its bombs. 

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[atlau]

Only argument I can see against expanding the loadouts of the 51 and 38 would be if it imbalanced the game... although I don't think that it would do so. If people are willing to impair the performance of their plane I think they should be allowed to carry these even if they were uncommon in WW2...

[Tank-Ace]

Only argument I can see against expanding the loadouts of the 51 and 38 would be if it imbalanced the game... although I don't think that it would do so. If people are willing to impair the performance of their plane I think they should be allowed to carry these even if they were uncommon in WW2...

I almost guarantee 10 HVAR's and 1000lb bombs were not carried. Find a picture, then sure.

6 HVAR's and 1000lb bombs now has photographic proof, and I'm willing to drop that particular issue. But based on the lack of photographic evidence was VERY rare. Now the 10 HVAR's looks to have been very rare all on its own, and was likely never carried with 1000lb bombs.

[Mongoose]

Don't know, good question.  I've also wondered whether or not P-38s dove bomb with this load out.
ack-ack

  One of the few times I got a chance to talk to a WWII pilot, one was a P-38 pilot.  I asked him about that, and he said they would not dive bomb with the 2K bombs.  Only the level bombing was done with that kind of load.

[atlau]

Tank-Ace.. the 10 HVAR loadout is only available w/o the bomb load. The additional 6 rockets are basically where the bomb pylon would be. So it would be a rocket only loadout. PRobably it's best use would be to allow the 51 to be a better deacker.