Author Topic: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go  (Read 3397 times)

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2013, 01:27:47 PM »
Well aren't you touchy. I guess you're one of the GV whiners.

I'm the who cares what they do, there are 90 other targets in the air whiner.

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2013, 01:43:04 PM »
I'm the who cares what they do, there are 90 other targets in the air whiner.

I guess you only ever log on during the two hours of US primetime. The rest of the time you're lucky to find a Runstang to chase after he's dropped on the dar and headed home. That's probably more your style if you aren't hiding in a tank crying about bombers.

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2013, 02:15:44 PM »
I guess you only ever log on during the two hours of US primetime. The rest of the time you're lucky to find a Runstang to chase after he's dropped on the dar and headed home. That's probably more your style if you aren't hiding in a tank crying about bombers.



you know what they say when you assume, only the first half of it would be true in this case.
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2013, 02:54:20 PM »
GVers and the basetaking crowd bored most of the good sticks into leaving. Maybe if we make the game appealing to them again they will come back.

This doesn't make sense to me in terms of cause and effect. Are you saying the game is being made boring by people in gvs period, or that it is being made boring because players are in gvs instead of airplanes? If its the latter I can see the logic but I think there are quite a few paying players who are mainly here because of the gv game and would themselves consider it boring to fly planes.
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2013, 03:02:35 PM »

Let me tell you an example from last night.

Bish held Rook A4 and A10, near their HQ. Truly epic battle over A4. Bombers en masse, Jabos, escorts fighters. Fights from the deck up to 25k. As Bish defenders held on desperately to the base, some of them where continually rolling M3's with field supps to the town, which of course made the Rooks capture attempt much more difficult.

At one time, a second wave of Rook fighters & Jabos went to A10, obviously in an attempt to prevent reinforcements coming to A4. They took down Vh (smart thing, stopping m3's to A4 for 15 mins) and vulching the base.
And then I could not believe they weren't touching the barracks at A10. With bishop troop factory at 37%, they would have been down for more than 100 minutes, meaning a long time no supps for A4 and a huge advantage for the Rook assault at A4.

They were there, over A10, in command of the situation and didn't even think of it.  :bhead

I hear that quite often "kill the VH".  I usually respond with "that is worth 15 minutes, if we can get the barracks down we get at least XYZ mins".  The amount of players that do not understand the strategic element of the industrial complex and the on site barracks, ammo bunkers, etc, is alarming. 

I'll take squad mates on missions (yes, there are other kinds of "mishuns" than capturing a field), to disable barracks, ords, etc, are an adjacent field. It is amazing what a pair of Mossi's covered by a pair of fighters can accomplish.  :D   
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2013, 03:30:30 PM »
I'll take squad mates on missions (yes, there are other kinds of "mishuns" than capturing a field), to disable barracks, ords, etc, are an adjacent field. It is amazing what a pair of Mossi's covered by a pair of fighters can accomplish.  :D   

1 pass on a Vbase in a F4U should be able to rid this problem, 15 mins at most

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2013, 03:57:30 PM »


I'll take squad mates on missions (yes, there are other kinds of "mishuns" than capturing a field), to disable barracks, ords, etc, are an adjacent field. It is amazing what a pair of Mossi's covered by a pair of fighters can accomplish.  :D   

what a thrill...

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2013, 04:41:30 PM »
Looked at from another perspective, the M3's resupplying base actually contribute to maintaining the fight.  I've seen numerous other posts complaining about people only wanting to take a base as fast as possible, in order (so it is posited) to avoid a fight (sound familiar?).  The M3's in fact make taking the base harder, thus prolonging the fight at the base under assault.  So, if you're interested in ongoing good fights,  :salute the brave M3 guys who remember that old adage..."Amateurs talk "tactics"; professionals talk "logistics"! :cheers:
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2013, 04:44:45 PM »
what a thrill...

It is.  Try it sometime.  It is a race against time.  Getting a Mossi up to 440 mph in a dive, dropping ordnance accurately, and surviving the auto ack is a good time.  Oh, and don't forget the knee-jerk La7's that up to chase you down. The escorting fighters have their hands full the entire flight.  The last time we did this type of mission we hit 4 bases and only 1 of us survived (1 Mossi and both Spit 14's didn't make it back).  However, 4 bases along the front either had ord or barracks destroyed.

There is far more to AH than capturing fields, pick-n-run fighters, bomb****in', or milk runs in bombers.  Free your mind and your bellybutton will follow.  
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2013, 04:54:19 PM »
1 pass on a Vbase in a F4U should be able to rid this problem, 15 mins at most

Not exactly sure what you're pointing towards, but I'll take a stab-

Sure, a single fighter armed with 2/1k bombs and rockets (like the F4U-1D and P51D. We never see that now do we?), but in most cases 2 passes are made on a v-base simply because of the precision needed for the middle 4 barracks and the angles needed.  Some of us can do it on 1 run in the right aircraft.  However, when dealing with the airfields it take more than 1 run and that was my point in taking 2 Mossi's escorted by 2 Spitfire 14's.  We've done it with Typhoons as well but the quantity of ords is less and the fuel range is much less so the missions are more limited.     

Like I said in a different response to another wave off: there are more than 1 kind of mission and in that mission we hit four fields along an active front.  Two airfields and 2 v-bases.  6 ords and 12 barracks later (and 3-4 downed enemy fighters) only 1 Mossi made it back. 
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2013, 05:22:58 PM »
Not exactly sure what you're pointing towards, but I'll take a stab-

just a quick solution to m3 scourge.

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2013, 09:44:28 PM »
Looked at from another perspective, the M3's resupplying base actually contribute to maintaining the fight.  I've seen numerous other posts complaining about people only wanting to take a base as fast as possible, in order (so it is posited) to avoid a fight (sound familiar?).  The M3's in fact make taking the base harder, thus prolonging the fight at the base under assault.  


Just reading this thread, was thinking the same thing.

- oldman (not that I know anything about base taking, but it's interesting to read about it)

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2013, 03:07:18 AM »

Just reading this thread, was thinking the same thing.

- oldman (not that I know anything about base taking, but it's interesting to read about it)

What usually happens (Again, except during the two hours of US primetime.) Is that you roll in three fighters, drop some of the town, and instead of getting a fight you get 20 wirbles parked on the runway and a neverending train of M3's.
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2013, 04:05:44 AM »
DA has nothing but what you want. :aok

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2013, 04:38:01 AM »
What usually happens (Again, except during the two hours of US primetime.) Is that you roll in three fighters, drop some of the town, and instead of getting a fight you get 20 wirbles parked on the runway and a neverending train of M3's.

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