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Offline Lusche

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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2013, 06:03:04 PM »
All I can say is " I am truly sorry for the way it played out"!


No need to. The best that can happen to the MA is a big battle, and a big battle it was for sure. Reminds me of the good ole days, with major bomb raids being a regular excercise. Far too few of them in these days  :old:
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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2013, 06:09:41 PM »
:airplane: :uhoh I am embarrassed  to say the least!

All I can say is " I am truly sorry for the way it played out"!


I dont think apologies are necessary on your part, Earl.
 I do agree with Lusche. If anything the game will be more entertaining now.


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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2013, 06:09:59 PM »
Earl, it was not my belief that you intended this, but that someone sort of took the idea too far. There was a discussion online, with many of us believing the best thing to do was stay out. I even, flew under the formation along with you guys til a 51 dropped and shot me down. I never got a chance to go defensive. I played Fighter Ace from it's beginning until it's end and we had many memorial flights that players from all sides joined in. There were no sides when we lost a friend or loved one. No one ever turned one(that I know of) into a furball or bombing run. Again, my sympathy for your loss Earl, I know it's not easy.
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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2013, 06:14:53 PM »
I guess communication on 200 would allow fliers from other countries to join in.

Maybe something like........"bomber memorial flight......enemy p51 below you requests permission to join"..........."yeah, that's me waggling my wings".

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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2013, 07:10:35 PM »

No need to. The best that can happen to the MA is a big battle, and a big battle it was for sure. Reminds me of the good ole days, with major bomb raids being a regular excercise. Far too few of them in these days  :old:
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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2013, 08:23:04 PM »
I have no doubts that a group thought they were being very clever. There's always that type of crappy human beings (and that's exactly what they are: crappy human beings, deserving a good stern kick to the rear) lurking around.


<S> Earl, I'm sorry they got your memorial flight involved with their BS.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2013, 08:25:10 PM by Tank-Ace »
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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2013, 09:02:36 PM »
I'm sorry but I've been playing this game for a long time and this is the first time I have ever seen the memorial flight abused like this.   Over the years I've been in a few different squads and participated in several of the memorial flights - it is a way to show respect for your friends and their loss.  It should never be used as a ruse, and why would you even be taking ordnance unless you intended to drop it on an enemy target?   Assuming you wanted a B29 memorial flight, why wouldn't bombs have been jettisoned right after takeoff to get your speed and climb up if it were just a memorial flight? 

Dec 2nd 2013 is a date which will live in AH infamy.  It is the day that respect for the memorial flight ended.   

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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2013, 09:09:21 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2013, 09:38:05 PM »
:airplane: :uhoh I am embarrassed  to say the least! This is not the way I operate! I normally fly bomber missions at 13K to promote air combat, which is what this game is all about! I would point out that we were bounced about 3/4 sector away from the strats and that is when the discussion started about dropping bombs. My intention the whole time and that is why I announced it here in the forum, was to fly to strats, RTB to a friendly base A41, then turn and attack some close by base as we had a huge horde of bombers and fighters.
It was never MY intention for things to develop the way that they did, and if I had it to over again, would have done it in the training arena as someone has pointed out. The problem with that is guys have to back out of the main arena and then rejoin and we had several squads represented in the flight.
Barbara's Memorial was held at church yesterday at 3PM and with the memorial flight last night, I felt I was doing what she wanted me to do to honor her!

All I can say is " I am truly sorry for the way it played out"!
Mrs ET loved to sit and watch and even fly some of the B-29 missions.  When ET started the flight it was not the goal to bomb. But question what would Mrs. ET want and it was said that she would want us to drop eggs.  Hence forth the alerts on 200 and the dropping of eggs

 :huh  Horse apples. Do not ever use a memorial flight being hit as an excuse to do what you did. You're pathetic little people if you do. Any memorial flight takes the chance of being hit when they try to do them in the MA instead of another arena. You knew that before you upped and those who attack it get to be publicly called out and shamed. If you were as embarrassed as you say Earl, I am sure you bailed out before toggling anything as protest right? That is how a memorial flight is supposed to end anyways, with every pilot offering up a death by bailing to end the flight, as dramatically as they care to make it, and float to earth under silk. No one is supposed to get kills because it shouldn't be done in the MA anyway.

Congrats, you have just changed the rules. There will not be any memorial flights left alone and when they start crying "why" everyone will tell them because earl and his cronies ruined it forever. I will attack any and all I see now and encourage others to as well. I will make sure I let as many new guys know the new rules as well.

Your pathetic online behavior is one example of the lousy players we have in the game now. While it used to be a few players now and then, the numbers have increased to the point people don't enjoy being online as much as they once did. This is evidence of why numbers are dropping, not graphics, gvs, or astronauts, but lame game play, pure and simple.
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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2013, 10:11:08 PM »
:huh  Horse apples. Do not ever use a memorial flight being hit as an excuse to do what you did. You're pathetic little people if you do. Any memorial flight takes the chance of being hit when they try to do them in the MA instead of another arena. You knew that before you upped and those who attack it get to be publicly called out and shamed. If you were as embarrassed as you say Earl, I am sure you bailed out before toggling anything as protest right? That is how a memorial flight is supposed to end anyways, with every pilot offering up a death by bailing to end the flight, as dramatically as they care to make it, and float to earth under silk. No one is supposed to get kills because it shouldn't be done in the MA anyway.

Congrats, you have just changed the rules. There will not be any memorial flights left alone and when they start crying "why" everyone will tell them because earl and his cronies ruined it forever. I will attack any and all I see now and encourage others to as well. I will make sure I let as many new guys know the new rules as well.

Your pathetic online behavior is one example of the lousy players we have in the game now. While it used to be a few players now and then, the numbers have increased to the point people don't enjoy being online as much as they once did. This is evidence of why numbers are dropping, not graphics, gvs, or astronauts, but lame game play, pure and simple.

Wow!  Kick a guy when he's at most likely the lowest part of his life over a $14.95 a month cartoon game when some slug chose to jump the well advertised memorial flight.  Talk about pathetic and lame.  The one that chose to jump the flight changed the rules, not Earl.
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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2013, 10:26:05 PM »
Wow!  Kick a guy when he's at most likely the lowest part of his life over a $14.95 a month cartoon game when some slug chose to jump the well advertised memorial flight.  Talk about pathetic and lame.  The one that chose to jump the flight changed the rules, not Earl.

While earl is innocent in this, it wasn't those that attacked the memorial flight who are really in the wrong here. Most assuredly it was done by those who did not realize what the giant red horde was.

However, I have absolutely zero doubt that the strat bombers intentionally used the memorial flight as cover. They are the ones we should truely be blaming, and condemning.
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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2013, 11:32:28 PM »
Earl doesn't deserve this. Any of this. You people whining about some virtual tool shed being bombed are out of line. Way out of line.
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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2013, 11:59:05 PM »
      Its almost as if some virtual honor was tarnished by what some people are posting. Any honor these games had died a long time ago. Most are just pissed off because they think they were duped. Whether they were or not, who cares. The original attempt at doing something for someone was there.

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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2013, 12:31:37 AM »
Earl doesn't deserve this. Any of this. You people whining about some virtual tool shed being bombed are out of line. Way out of line.

Memorial flights have always been peaceful and respectful affairs.  Others that have happened in the MA in the past have been attacked but out of respect the pilots went down without a counter-attack and the attackers were at least attempted to be contacted to call off the attack.

So this, and I'll quote it again, "memorial flight" was attacked and someone decided that since that happened they should counter.

At that point Earl could have called it off.  In respect for his wife's departure I'm pretty sure no one would have dropped.  But he didn't.  If I were a betting man I'd guess he even opened his bay doors and dropped himself.  And then he has the audacity to come here and say he had no control over the situation and is embarrased.  BS.  He's back-peddling trying to regain lost respect.

I wasn't there and really shouldn't care but I was raised to believe that "memorials" were respectful, solomn affairs.  IMO Earl is wayyy out of line.  He clearly didn't even respect his own wife's passing (if that's even true... why would I believe anything he says at this point?) but instead used it as a ruse to gain some unimaginable advantage in a game.

People here complain about dweebs, noobs, the younger generation ad infinitum.  This takes the cake.
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Re: Last night's "memorial" strat run
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2013, 12:36:00 AM »
Earl is not one of those who have lost my respect in this thread.
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