PB1 Rockets

[JOACH1M]

I have done it a long time ago.

[colmbo]

I have tried very hard in the past and practiced a lot offline. I just can't get hits with any kind of satisfying consistency. I'm afraid, I have to stick to the Hurri D and B5N

From what I've read you had to get in close with the PB1….like 200 yards….which is really close with a diving fighter.

[icepac]

Anyone gotten kills of a tank using the rockets on the I16?

[Tank-Ace]

During the time when I used a specialized gunsight with rocket lines for speeds of 250, 300, and 350mph, the product of 6 hours of experimentation and revision, I only had a success rate of ~55% using a salvo of 3 rockets and a delay of 0.13.


A big issue is that both speed and angle of attack affect the rocket's trajectory, so you have to be very patient and VERY consistent in your flying, in order to have consistent results.

And the situations where the 190F-8's ability to kill high numbers of tanks in a single sortie is most useful, the longer setup time compared to dropping bombs outweights it.

[Butcher]

A big issue is that both speed and angle of attack affect the rocket's trajectory, so you have to be very patient and VERY consistent in your flying, in order to have consistent results.

Which is why Its easier to take an A-20 and pickle a few off and you can score far more kills then a 190F and not even have to be a decent attack pilot, plus the A-20 is far agile compared to an IL-2.

[Tinkles]

Which is why Its easier to take an A-20 and pickle a few off and you can score far more kills then a 190F and not even have to be a decent attack pilot, plus the A-20 is far agile compared to an IL-2.

Not to mention you can actually see around you, unlike the IL-2 where you have to switch to the gunner position in order to see behind you.

It's more satisfying getting kills with the il2 bombs though.  Once you get that 'trajectory' down for the 100lb-250 lb hitting something with a 500+ is easy.....

[USCH]

MAKAYLA was really good at using the Pb's. I saw him get 12 tanks in on run with them.

[Lusche]

MAKAYLA was really good at using the Pb's.

Ahh yes. 243 tank kills in tour 142 alone, in addition to scores of other GVs and planes   

[MK-84]

From what I can gather they have been in AH since '08 or before so I have to assume that folks use them to kill the occasional GV.  Is it uncommon to get a GV kill using the PB1s?

The reason I ask is because I killed a guy today in an Osti by firing a salvo of PB1s from the 190F8.  He PM'd "nice hack cheater".  HUH??

He claims that in 12 years he's never been killed by a rocket "unless the file was hacked".  Is he a recluse or is it rare to get GV kills with the PB1s.

In his defense I think he thought I was firing the anti-bomber rockets at him.

Everything I've read about the PB1 says it was designed as an aircraft fired anti-vehicle weapon so killing GVs seems to be the thing to do with it.

A few months back I was destroyed by a PB1 rocket while driving a panther.
First I was like 
and then I was like 
It's certainly difficult to get a direct hit, and even when you do the rocket can ricochet off but it does happen

Other rare but totally doable actions:
I took out a tiger with a 50kg bomb from an IL2.  A direct hit it pretty much required
Snailman popped my 262 with a tank round in crater as I was zooming by. (this is rare in that I wasn't flying directly at him)
Surviving a 650+mph flight into a grove of trees and gliding 20 miles back to base
I blew the tail off of an enemy jug and as he flipped around and shot me in the face
I lost another 262 to an 88 while cruising at 450ish from over 7k away

None of it's cheating of course, with skill or luck, or both all kinds of uncommon things can occur.

[Lusche]

Snailman popped my 262 with a tank round in crater as I was zooming by. (this is rare in that I wasn't flying directly at him)

I did what? 

[USCH]

I did what? 

im guessing you shot an HE round in the ground and it killed his 262.

[Lusche]

im guessing you shot an HE round in the ground and it killed his 262.

Not only that I can't remember having done any such a thing deliberately, I also can't find any 262 kill by me in a tank since we got the Crater map...  

And the only kill of Mk-84 in a 262 by me that I can find was in tour 137, with me being in a P-51D 

[guncrasher]

Not only that I can't remember having done any such a thing deliberately, I also can't find any 262 kill by me in a tank since we got the Crater map...  

And the only kill of Mk-84 in a 262 by me that I can find was in tour 137, with me being in a P-51D 

please refer to the "death not registering" thread.


semp

[icepac]

Not only that I can't remember having done any such a thing deliberately, I also can't find any 262 kill by me in a tank since we got the Crater map...  

And the only kill of Mk-84 in a 262 by me that I can find was in tour 137, with me being in a P-51D 

Because he glided back to base.

[SmokinLoon]

Anyone gotten kills of a tank using the rockets on the I16?

Nope.  You probably wont, either.  The Soviet RS82 rockets are first and foremost HE, and secondly the weakest in the game.  They do the same damage to OBJ as the German Pb1 rockets (93 lbs), but do not have the AP ability.  However, I've had great luck using them against lighter skinned gv's (M3, M8, M18, Wirbys, etc).  

FYI:  I've only destroyed tanks using the PB1 rockets (designated anti-tank rockets), the British 60 Pdr rockets (SAP, and best air to ground rocket in game), and the US 5in HVAR.  I have yet to get a legit kill shot using either of the Soviet rockets or the US 4.5in rocket.  I think the only reason I got the 1 kill I did using the 5in HVAR was luck, I just happen to hit the top of the turret of a Panzer IV F2 with almost a perpendicular impact.  Otherwise, the 5in HVAR rockets just glance off the armor in most cases as it is purely HE.  As I said earlier, the British 60 Pdr rockets are the best air to ground rockets in the game dealing 187 lbs of HE damage to OBJ, and thanks to their warhead they do bust up tanks well enough too, but not as easy as the German Pb1.  

Again... for those of you trying to bust tanks with rockets, I highly suggest you LEARN the firing order or else you're just wasting rockets.  The 190F-8 is the only plane that fires 2 rockets from the same wing, otherwise everything else is single rockets at a time.  Firing three is a waste if you're firing at a tank.