Prop wash

[colmbo]

Prop wash did not cause the P51 to start to roll inverted.  Prop wash causes a yawing effect at low airspeed.  More likely it was Propeller torque effect which causes a rolling and is corrected with aileron controls

It was the prop wash off the 109 that caused the Mustang to roll.

You're correct in that your prop wash causes yaw….but rest assured the other guys prop wash will roll you.  (His wingtip vortices will also)

[Ardy123]

Prop wash didn't change combat.  It was and is an integral part of flying that pilots have to be cognizant of and deal with, if encountered.  Most likely, the pilot stalled the Mustang and all the factors Traveler mentions below aided in the "snap", probably to the left.  Flying through prop wash won't necessarily cause a roll to the inverted.    

Wouldn't it change the way people approached bombers? 

[Puma44]

Wouldn't it change the way people approached bombers? 

More likely the defensive guns on bombers would change the way pilots approached them.

[Ardy123]

More likely the defensive guns on bombers would change the way pilots approached them.

lol you would think... go into the MA... see how many players hug the back of bombers until their engines get smoked.

[Puma44]

lol you would think... go into the MA... see how many players hug the back of bombers until their engines get smoked.

Oh, so true.....

[guncrasher]

lol you would think... go into the MA... see how many players hug the back of bombers until their engines get smoked.

sometimes you have no choice.  I'll climb over bombers till I get in a position of advantage.  but if I dont have the time and want to stop the bomber from dropping eggs, then it's tail time.  most of the time I die but also most of the time I disrupt the bomber from accurately dropping eggs.  lots of others do this also.


semp

[Tinkles]

sometimes you have no choice.  I'll climb over bombers till I get in a position of advantage.  but if I dont have the time and want to stop the bomber from dropping eggs, then it's tail time.  most of the time I die but also most of the time I disrupt the bomber from accurately dropping eggs.  lots of others do this also.


semp

That is sort of the point of being there is it not?  Killing the enemy or at least disabling them before they hit/reach their target? (Not attacking you, but agreeing with you.)

As long as I can distract them or kill some/all of them before they get to target, then that works for me.  Of course, killing all three bombers is even better

[colmbo]

Wouldn't it change the way people approached bombers? 

You can get very close without running into turbulence.  We eased up so our nose was within about 10 feet of the B-24 without any bumps, we were about 8-10 feet lower.  No picture up close because I put the camera down to work the throttles as the other guy flew.

[Puma44]

Great picture and formation flying, Columbo! 

[colmbo]

Great picture and formation flying, Columbo! 

It's easier when you don't have to use a hat for views and your butt can tell you what the airplane is doing.

[FLS]

It's easier when you don't have to use a hat for views and your butt can tell you what the airplane is doing.

You're using a hat in your avatar. 

[Puma44]

It's easier when you don't have to use a hat for views and your butt can tell you what the airplane is doing.

Roger that!

[captain1ma]

nice picture of a old plane and a plastic bottle of poland springs on the dash!! LOL

great pictures anyway.

speaking of prop wash, all i can think of is inflight refueling. never seems to be a problem. <S>

PS as a boat captain, my prop wash come out the back of the boat, unless i send a new deckhand to find it!

[earl1937]

It's easier when you don't have to use a hat for views and your butt can tell you what the airplane is doing.

One of the hardest things for people to learn to do is ignore their body sensations when learning to fly on instruments in IFR weather. When you see a student, recovering from unusual attitudes, on the gauges, quickly recovering to straight and level flight, then you know he has mastered the art of mental discipline of trusting what the gauges are telling him and then you know he is on the way to becoming a instrument pilot.
Then comes that day or night when he has to punch through a area of "boomers". Now all of a sudden a whole new set of varables comes into play. What with ATC giving him vectors to help him through the mess, bumps, up drafts, down drafts, went from daylight to all of a sudden, very dark and had forgotten to turn on his instrument lighting system, thinks the lights had failed, trying to locate a flash light, can't stay within 500 feet of assigned altitude and knowing other aircraft are in the same general area, sweat running down into your eyes, can't see to good then and then you bust through into bright sun light and you are still right side up and a great sense of relief comes over you and then you know that you are truly the master of instrument flying!