Author Topic: Bombers have no effect on the war? (The real one)  (Read 2819 times)

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Re: Bombers have no effect on the war? (The real one)
« Reply #105 on: January 09, 2014, 02:19:32 PM »

While this sounds nice, it's just not so.  The most obvious example in our current context is that the Germans weren't tried for their own "terror bombing" war crimes.  "He did it first" is a recognized basis for self-defense in criminal law, for equitable estoppel in civil law, and has been a general principle of society, everywhere, since someone first came up with the "eye-for-an-eye" notion.

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Of course they didn't. They'd look like complete hypocrites. Nevertheless, in 1949 willful killing of civilians became a war crime, less than five years after the major parties to WWII had willfully killed civilians en masse.

No. Just no... Murdering a man's family is not justified because "he did it first". No court in the world would forgive you for murdering a child just because the child's father murdered yours. That's what were talking about here; using military force to deliberately kill defenseless civilians. Women, children, infants.
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Re: Bombers have no effect on the war? (The real one)
« Reply #106 on: January 09, 2014, 02:23:57 PM »
That's a valid point.  I still think, though, that there would be a difference in feeling about their situation between a citizen of Germany post 1940 subject to bombing and, say, a person living in the Ukraine or Poland subject to being rounded up and executed.

I don't know about that, but German women had a saying: "Better to have a Russian on your belly than an American over your head."
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Re: Bombers have no effect on the war? (The real one)
« Reply #108 on: January 09, 2014, 02:26:42 PM »
It is from that Tarantino film.  The guy was a dork.

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Re: Bombers have no effect on the war? (The real one)
« Reply #109 on: January 09, 2014, 02:28:15 PM »
Those don't look like Marines to me...

Those are USMC snipers in that picture.

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Re: Bombers have no effect on the war? (The real one)
« Reply #110 on: January 09, 2014, 02:28:47 PM »
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Re: Bombers have no effect on the war? (The real one)
« Reply #112 on: January 09, 2014, 03:39:49 PM »
Those are USMC snipers in that picture.

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So it says.  Geeze.   I was thinking Seals maybe but Marine Snipers (Recon)?   Tsk tsk.
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Re: Bombers have no effect on the war? (The real one)
« Reply #113 on: January 09, 2014, 04:05:11 PM »
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Re: Bombers have no effect on the war? (The real one)
« Reply #114 on: January 09, 2014, 05:32:46 PM »
It is from that Tarantino film.  The guy was a dork.

Yeah I've seen the movie I liked Reservoir Dogs better.  :P

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