Author Topic: Perking the F4u-1C.. how about this (Read 491 times)

AKDejaVu · « **on:** January 28, 2001, 11:06:00 AM »

Pyro had been saying he'd rather perk the F4u-1C than disable it from CVs.

I've been saying if you disable it from CVs, you won't have to perk it.

How about this idea... perk the F4u-1C from CVs. Make it somewhat spendy (though not as much as full-time perk planes... about 1/3).

Just a thought.

AKDejaVu

Torgo · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2001, 11:48:00 AM »

How about disabling it from land bases? Or perking it from land bases?

Again, I have yet to see any evidence it flew combat sorties from land bases in World War II (I strongly suspect it did, however, but I still haven't seen specific evidence.)

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2001, 11:53:00 AM »

At some point... EVERY aircraft has flow sorties from a land base. Its impossible to avoid.

AKDejaVu

eskimo · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2001, 12:55:00 PM »

How about it only be available from CVs and perhaps one type of the three airfields (such as medium).

eskimo

jihad · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2001, 01:01:00 PM »

How about HTC place chog factories in the map? Then we could bomb them round the clock? <G>

Torgo · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2001, 02:15:00 PM »

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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
At some point... EVERY aircraft has flow sorties from a land base. Its impossible to avoid.

AKDejaVu

The ONLY combat sorties the CHog saw in WWII were in the Okinawa campaign which lasted several months.

Okinawa, of course, belonged to the Japanese at the beginning of the campaign. And Okinawa was so far from previously captured bases that really all the fighter support had to be off carriers.

So, clearly, ALL CHogs began the campaign off CVs..we know the Navy Squadron of CHogs was based on the CV Shangri-La and stayed there the whole time.

The Marine squadrons began the campaign on escort carriers.

Now, as the Campaign progressed, Air Bases on Okinawa were captured and US planes moved in.

What is unclear is whether any of the Marine squadrons ever moved from the Escort CVs to land bases and flew any combat sorties from them. Or whether they moved to land bases on Okinawa and flew sorties vs. Mainland Japan at the very end of the war.

It's clear that in 1944-45 there WERE Marine squadrons that were purely and permanently carrier-based, contrary to popular opinion.

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Fishu · « **Reply #6 on:** January 28, 2001, 02:31:00 PM »

Just perk it.

Land bases causes same excessive amount of C hogs as CVs, which counts for less D hogs and other planes.

jihad · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2001, 03:48:00 PM »

Seriously, why not aircraft factorys tied into the strat model?

If the factory is bombed out then production of the most popular plane at the moment is eliminated.

Placing the factory in the rear areas would mean large scale escorted strikes could take it out but lone bombers would have little chance of impacting production if the tonnage required was high.

BMF · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2001, 02:43:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Torgo:
It's clear that in 1944-45 there WERE Marine squadrons that were purely and permanently carrier-based, contrary to popular opinion.

I remember reading something about this too. Were not the Blacksheep moved aboard the USS Franklin? Not the original Blacksheep but the follow-up squadron following Pappy's departure? Sorry I have no reference for you.

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F4UDOA · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2001, 07:09:00 AM »

Yes BMF they were.

They got hit by a Kamikaze and most of the A/C and some of the pilots were lost. I think they only flew a few combat missions together.

As far as disabling the F4U-1C from carriers goes, I think it's backwards. The -1C in war time operated mostly from carriers as a CAP against Kamikaze attacks. I think if you want to disable them it should be from land first. Not only for historic reasons. The carriers in AH could use the -1C to increase survivability, mostly for their historic role of defending against Kamikaze attacks from one way dweebs.

Effdub · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2001, 09:25:00 AM »

I have no problems with the C-Hog. I kill them, they kill me - it's fairly even....

C-Hogs get annoying when masses of them show up at your base with alt on ya, but any other plane with alt and superior numbers would be just as annoying.

C-Hog is a good ride for jabo missions but it's fairly easy to kill 'em too... Get alt over field, select C-Hog trgt, dive on him as he commits his bomb run, kill him, repeat untill out of ammo... where's the prob?

Yeager · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2001, 09:36:00 AM »

Lets do this:
Grab it, tear it into little bits and pieces, throw it onto the ground, stomp on it until it disappears?

Just a thought.

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-towd_ · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2001, 10:08:00 AM »

damb yeagger you absolutly right turns like a spit rolls like a fw hits like a howitzer. why oh why will it kill a tank in a ho?

get rid of it its wrong... and dont seem to be able to fix it 20 mm wont kill a main battle tank. then or now

Author Topic: Perking the F4u-1C.. how about this (Read 491 times)

eskimo

BMF

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