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Offline Fulcrum

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Re: "War in the Air" - BBC
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2014, 07:26:30 AM »
I beg to differ. You can't sell something and call it charity. If you can then America "supported" Germany as well before Britain got involved; most of the trucks carrying German troops into Poland had Ford or GM stickers on them.

I didn't call it charity....I called it support.  Are you stating that US supplies prior to Lend Lease were not important to the British war effort?

Sure, you could state that the Soviets were supporting Germany at this stage....because they were in essence ALLIED during the invasion of Poland.  "Nonaggression Pact" be damned....both countries were involved in that little effort.  And yes, Soviet oil did indeed help Germany's war effort early on.

Stop thinking in terms of black and white....all politics are shades of grey and they are almost always changing.  That has been true throughout history...

I doubt I will change either of your minds on this subject and it's not worth arguing over.   :salute
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Re: "War in the Air" - BBC
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2014, 07:29:15 AM »
Well, I certainly didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.








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Re: "War in the Air" - BBC
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2014, 07:44:24 AM »


Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear (our TWO chief weapons!)

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Offline Zoney

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Re: "War in the Air" - BBC
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2014, 10:16:53 AM »
I beg to differ. You can't sell something and call it charity. If you can then America "supported" Germany as well before Britain got involved; most of the trucks carrying German troops into Poland had Ford or GM stickers on them.

Well yes an no.  The program did not have an "immediate payment" for goods received.  If the allies had lost the war nothing would have ever been paid back because the losing side very likely would have ceased to exist and the new regime would have certainly taken no responsibility to pay back any debts for a country they had conquered and assimilated.
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Re: "War in the Air" - BBC
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2014, 12:10:29 PM »
Well yes an no.  The program did not have an "immediate payment" for goods received.  If the allies had lost the war nothing would have ever been paid back because the losing side very likely would have ceased to exist and the new regime would have certainly taken no responsibility to pay back any debts for a country they had conquered and assimilated.
That is Lend Lease which started after the BoB.  During the BoB the Brits were buying 100 octane fuel, but I believe that was pay as you go.
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Re: "War in the Air" - BBC
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2014, 04:39:54 PM »
Yes the 1939 "cash and carry" amendment to the Neutrality Act of 1936 only allowed the sale of material to belligerents, as long as the recipients arranged for the transport using their own ships and paid immediately in cash, assuming all risk in transportation.
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