Author Topic: Ta-152 firepower  (Read 6961 times)

Offline alpini13

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Re: Ta-152 firepower
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2014, 11:11:09 AM »
  this is funny...not only do the records exsist..but so do the photo's exsist,that the ta-152 c was in production....... at least 2 ta152c saw service...and there was another version....an armed recon version of the ta-152c....designated ta-152E.......the problem,is in the last few months of the war,many records were destroyed,some adhoc units didnt keep detailed records. and other records were lost due to bombings or fire.....and so we dont have a paper record.  we do have photos ande we do have first person accounts.    these aircraft were used at the very end of the conflict and NOT in squad strength and therefore should not be in game. if you want to see pics of them during the war,or recovered after the war from combat areas...not at the factory...get the ta-152 book by thomas hitchcock. it is the best new book on the subject.  it shows development,prototypes,pre production aircraft and production aircraft,during and after the war. some pics are from collection points after the war of combat aircraft,some of scrap heaps of combat aircraft....and some pics from the factory.  if you really read this book,you will notice some other very interesting things....like a picture of an advanced fw190A 8?9? on the combat field for jg-301. jg-301 was a combat squadron and its aircraft used in combat. that fw-190A 8 or 9 or even 10...has never been identified as to what it actually is. and yet here it is at a combat field in jg301 livery. and so the point is,we do not know everything. but we do have to have some guidelines as to what can be used in game.

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Re: Ta-152 firepower
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2014, 12:32:23 PM »
but we do have to have some guidelines as to what can be used in game.

There are enough photos to prove it seen combat, it can be added in Aces. It wasn't unarmed prototypes like the Do-335, it was actual armed 152C's. Whether it was 2 or 50 it seen combat - this is the criteria needed to be added.

The whole argument whether it should be added is not debatable, it meets the criteria, however its going to be at the very botom of the list since the Ta-152 we have now is updated to standards, so the chances of the 152C is going to be a very long wait.
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Re: Ta-152 firepower
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2014, 02:28:52 PM »
If I'm not mistaken HTC's criteria is that the aircraft must have seen combat and served in squadron strength during the war. Two 152C's won't cut it.
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Re: Ta-152 firepower
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2014, 10:39:19 PM »
Yeah - but there were no operational P-47N , or F4U-4 units that saw combat in the ETO, either..

On the other hand He 162s did see combat, & recorded victory & loss stats..
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