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Offline Arlo

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2014, 09:36:02 PM »

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2014, 10:09:58 PM »
Like I thought, absolutely no proof at all.  It's funny how myself and others have no problems taking down bombers like the A-20, B-26 and others in a single pass, but others like you seem are incapable of it and blame the bomber for being 'too tough'.  

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If you fly enough sorties, there are tricks to bring down the A-20 and B-26 much easier. I kinda got a snicker at bringing down a B-26 - one of the easiest bombers to bring down with little or no ammo. An a20 however, just get a front quarter pass and its toast, just don't let the lasers shoot back though.

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #62 on: January 16, 2014, 12:27:26 AM »
http://ww2warbirds.net/ww2htmls/tupotu2.html

http://www.tu-2.info/

http://ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/tu-2.html

What's being referred to is an overload configuration.

"Bomb load was 1000kg inside the fuselage and 1000kg externally. Tu-2 was often used in overload configuration, carrying up to 4000kg (over 8800 lbs) of bombs."

Empty weight: 7,601 kg (16,757 lb)
Loaded weight: 10,538 kg (23,232 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 11,768 kg (25,944 lb)

23,232 lbs minus 16,727 lbs would equal 6475 lbs

25,994 lbs minus 16,757 lbs would equal 9,187 lbs


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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #63 on: January 16, 2014, 01:51:55 AM »
http://ww2warbirds.net/ww2htmls/tupotu2.html

http://www.tu-2.info/

http://ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/tu-2.html

What's being referred to is an overload configuration.

"Bomb load was 1000kg inside the fuselage and 1000kg externally. Tu-2 was often used in overload configuration, carrying up to 4000kg (over 8800 lbs) of bombs."

Empty weight: 7,601 kg (16,757 lb)
Loaded weight: 10,538 kg (23,232 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 11,768 kg (25,944 lb)

23,232 lbs minus 16,727 lbs would equal 6475 lbs

25,994 lbs minus 16,757 lbs would equal 9,187 lbs

I guess you forgot this: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,316230.msg4620458.html#msg4620458

There's no place for the extra 1000kg, nothing to mount it on. Quoting couple websites won't change that fact.
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #64 on: January 16, 2014, 02:20:20 AM »
some real pics have 3 props some 4 whats the difference?

In latest batches three-bladed propeller AV-5-167A was replaced with four-bladed with distinctive clipped blade tips
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2014, 02:21:16 AM »
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Offensive armament included two fixed forward-firing 20 millimeter ShVAK cannon, one in each wing root, with 200 rounds per gun, plus 1,000 kilograms (2,200 pounds) of bombs in the bombbay and racks for 2,000 kilograms (4,400 pounds) more under the wings inboard of the engines.

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #66 on: January 16, 2014, 04:20:15 AM »
I guess you forgot this: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,316230.msg4620458.html#msg4620458

There's no place for the extra 1000kg, nothing to mount it on. Quoting couple websites won't change that fact.

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2014, 04:34:14 AM »
Picture Might?

http://en.calameo.com/read/0013529282e1647366c4e



Can you see 4000kg of bombs loaded to the plane anywhere in that pic? I don't.
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2014, 04:37:21 AM »
was one of my favourite bombers back in FA good loadout and cannons to kill with.    tough as nuts.   Suits the late war arena just great. 

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #69 on: January 16, 2014, 04:43:05 AM »
Can you see 4000kg of bombs loaded to the plane anywhere in that pic? I don't.

No on 4000kG. :aok
I was looking at your comment of 1000Kg's you mentioned & no place to hang them.
I know those are not that big but there is a place were they possibly could be hung though?

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #70 on: January 16, 2014, 04:53:22 AM »
I was looking at your comment of 1000Kg's you mentioned & no place to hang them.
I know those are not that big but there is a place were they possibly could be hung though?

I meant that there's no place to hang four 1000kgs.

Yep, basically the only way to reach the maximum quoted load of 3000kg is to have one 1000kg in the bomb bay and two 1000kgs in the external wing root hard points. And I haven't seen a single pic of such load. I'm 95% sure that the operational use of 3000kg maximum load was practically non-existent.
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #71 on: January 16, 2014, 05:39:31 AM »
....is to have one 1000kg in the bomb bay...

Do you mean a single 1000kg bomb in the bay?
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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #72 on: January 16, 2014, 05:40:23 AM »
Wow I wanted this plane so much, according to the specs:

1. It is very fast - 325mph puts it to the same category as Ki-67 or Boston
2. It climbs well 1,600 ft/m - again similar to Ki-67 and Boston
3. It has much heavier bomb load: 1,500kg  bombs internal = 3306 lb  and around 5000lb external - i.e. with internal bombs only it has better payload than both Boston and Ki-67 and with external is has similar bomb-load to B-17 being much faster and climbing much better.

Fast, Climbs Well and has ~B-17 bombload

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It would be great addition especially for a players who don't want spend ages in climbing to ~20K

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #73 on: January 16, 2014, 05:51:06 AM »
Do you mean a single 1000kg bomb in the bay?

Yep

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Re: NEW PLANE: Tupolev TU-2
« Reply #74 on: January 16, 2014, 05:55:35 AM »
Woo Hoo   a new ride with 2 Engines  :x :x :aok :aok
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