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Offline WWhiskey

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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2014, 01:01:37 PM »
here is a hero!

8-year-old boy rescues 6 relatives from fire, dies trying to save 7th
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/21/us/new-york-boy-saves-family-fire/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

not by definition, by action,
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"It makes me really proud, it really does, but I just want him back," Tyler's mother, Crystal Vrooman, told CNN affiliate WHAM.

The boy broke away from his aunt outside the burning trailer and ran back inside to try to save his grandfather, she said.

"All I could think about is how he couldn't breathe," she told WHAM.

The pair were found together on a bed in the back room. It appeared that the boy was trying to lift his grandfather from the bed when he was overcome by the smoke and fire, the fire chief said.

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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2014, 05:17:54 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on January 22, 2014, 08:12:16 AM
It's not my definition. It's the definition of the world in the English language. It's all about the admiration, not the person itself. It's funny that you mention Hollywood since the principal male character in a movie is by definition a hero.



hero
 
he·ro
[heer-oh] Show IPA
noun, plural he·roes; for 5 also he·ros.

1. a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.

2. a person who, in the opinion of others, has heroic qualities or has performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal.

3. the principal male character in a story, play, film, etc.

If someone has to look up the definition of hero to determine what one is, that's a problem.
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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2014, 05:39:11 PM »
If you prefer to make up you your own words and meanings, that's fine. However don't expect other people to understand what you're on about. It's also funny that those who berate other people for using the word inappropriately can't be bothered by such pesky details as a dictionary definition...  :lol
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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2014, 09:03:50 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on January 22, 2014, 05:39:11 PM
If you prefer to make up you your own words and meanings, that's fine. However don't expect other people to understand what you're on about. It's also funny that those who berate other people for using the word inappropriately can't be bothered by such pesky details as a dictionary definition...  :lol

My point was exactly that.  Hero is generally self-defined, hence all the different answers.  None are wrong.  They just are.  Some folks here recognize the saving of a life...some folks recognize the caregiver that spends all their time and energy helping to make the dying's last days more comfortable and some believe its about medals won or awards received.  Some believe its their parents for raising them right and some believe its an older sibling that saved their life by keeping them out of the harms way they were surely headed for.  Others believe its a hallowed term for use only when one gives their own life for another person.

The definition isn't pesky...but for the word "hero"...its only an starting point for those that need help recognizing the word is much, much larger than the words used to illustrate its meaning in a dictionary.

I have my definition as do the others that answered and I guess that was my point...we didn't need the definition.
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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2014, 09:22:56 PM »
Because you've made your own.
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Offline RotBaron

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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2014, 12:35:49 AM »
You know there is NO keeper of the English language, better stated we are its keepers. Dictionaries are reference. The beauty lies in its constant evolution.
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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2014, 04:14:58 AM »
Fires are a terribly frightening thing. I'd rather take on a squad of armed thugs then ever have to go into a fire again.
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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2014, 05:57:02 AM »
Quote from: RotBaron on January 23, 2014, 12:35:49 AM
You know there is NO keeper of the English language, better stated we are its keepers. Dictionaries are reference. The beauty lies in its constant evolution.

If so then "hero" certainly includes all kinds of Hollywood personalities, sports personalities, musicians, teen idols etc. I.e. people who are admired. Anyone trying to narrow the definition would find themselves outnumbered.

« Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 05:58:43 AM by GScholz »
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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2014, 10:01:48 AM »
A tweeners hero will certainly not be their hero when they are 40, if so, they may need a real good therapist.  ;)

However, you are correct.
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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2014, 10:21:43 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/01/23/justin-bieber-reportedly-arrested-in-miami-beach/


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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2014, 10:35:27 AM »
I think we need to distinguish between the two notions of being a hero to someone, and being a hero to me. The Japanese lieutenant is probably a hero to some Japanese, and that makes him a hero™. Though he is not a hero to me personally. Like I said in my first post... It's all subjective.

As for the Canadian teen-idol's latest faux pas, it won't even make a dent in the psudo-religious following of his "belibers". Sadly.
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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2014, 11:01:33 AM »
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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2014, 11:51:59 AM »
 :lol :cheers:
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Re: Is This Vet a Hero?
« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2014, 02:38:26 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on January 23, 2014, 11:01:33 AM
my contribution to this fascinating argument  :banana:

what's in the video?  my settings wont allow me to play it.


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