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Offline Triton28

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Re: Super Blowout
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2014, 09:47:43 PM »
I'm thinking that this game may have killed Manning's career. Not that he's not a good athlete or QB, its just that he had a lot riding on this game.

This game solidified him not being considered for the greatest ever, but it in no way proved he's not a good QB.  To even suggest that is pretty stupid.  He's a great QB that ran into a very prepared and talented defense. 
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Re: Super Blowout
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2014, 10:45:56 PM »

Not a fan of either team, but it was clear from the game's first play that one team was clearly unprepared (Broncos) while their opponents were exquisitely prepared (Seahawks). 
The Seahawks were clearly faster, stronger, and more hungry than the Broncos.  How much their age had to do with that?  All I know is tonight the Broncos looked old and SLOW.  Seemed like everything the Broncos did, the Seahawks were right on top of it.....conversely, the Broncos looked like they were guessing what the Seahawks were gonna do next. 
Only reason I watched past halftime was to see if Pete Carroll would do like he did in his USC days and run the score up as much as he could.  I was surprised when he started pulling starters and they were only ahead 43-8. 
Congrats to Seattle.  That was the most methodical butt kicking I've seen in a Super Bowl since Dallas laid it on Buffalo in 1992.  Much like tonight, it was a young hungry team destroying an older more experienced one.

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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2014, 11:01:07 PM »
I reminded a lot of  people that DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.

Don't ever doubt that again please.

With that said, Go Hawks!

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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2014, 11:04:39 PM »

Pretty sure a lot of Seattle fan's including myself saw this coming.. also I know Ripsnort did as well.  :cheers:

They don't actually go to our games or watch every game on TV like we do. :) I DID NOT expect a team that played like jacksonville though...that was a real let down. I was expecting a good match up. Pretty disappointed that Denver brought that crap to the world stage.
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But, We knew bettter. ;) Defense Wins Championships.

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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2014, 11:05:56 PM »
super trash bowl was absolute trash, i want my money back. atleast the bbq was good.
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2014, 11:07:59 PM »
Oh, and can one more color commentator remind us how  many Seahawks have Super Bowl experience? (0)  Because now we have 53!

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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2014, 11:10:44 PM »
So is it time to talk about march madness yet?
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Re: Super Blowout
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2014, 12:08:58 AM »
I reminded a lot of  people that DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.

Don't ever doubt that again please.

With that said, Go Hawks!

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defense stops the other guy from scoring and ties the game at 0-0.  offense wins games.


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Re: Super Blowout
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2014, 07:02:21 AM »
This game solidified him not being considered for the greatest ever, but it in no way proved he's not a good QB.  To even suggest that is pretty stupid.  He's a great QB that ran into a very prepared and talented defense.  

I can't agree with that statement completely.  Marino lost the only Super Bowl he was in and is still considered one of the greatest all-time.  

Both Manning and Marino suffered from being on marginally talented teams which, for the most part, relied on their very talented QB making plays to win.  Counter that to Tom Brady, who I'll grant is talented but has always had a very strong organization, coaching staff and system to support him.  Without Brady, the Pats are STILL a good team.  Without Manning or Marino, their teams would fall apart.  

Don't believe me?  Remember when Manning was out for the season?  If memory serves the Colts whent 2-14 after having gone 10-6 the previous year.  Consider this picture as you think on that. I think it says it all.

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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2014, 07:13:46 AM »
defense stops the other guy from scoring and ties the game at 0-0.  offense wins games.


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Sorry but that is completely untrue.  A strong defensive team can almost always defeat a strong offensive team even when they possess a marginal offense.  

All the Redskins winners in '80s and '90s?  Bears in '85?  All the 49er and Patriots teams that won Super Bowls?  The Ravens in '00 and arguably last year as well?  The Steelers Super Bowl teams?  Every one of those teams had top tier defenses.  True most of them had talented offenses as well but the Ravens in particular are an example of where a strong defense more than makes up for a marginal offense.  Anyone remember the name of their starting QB in 2000?  That's right, it was future (not) Hall-of-Fame inductee Trent Dillfer.  That team had a ball-control, non-flashy offense that scored just enough to win and didn't turn over the ball...it was their defense that dictated the game and imposed their will on the other team.
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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2014, 07:26:03 AM »
defense stops the other guy from scoring and ties the game at 0-0.  offense wins games.


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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2014, 08:47:45 AM »
I can't agree with that statement completely.  Marino lost the only Super Bowl he was in and is still considered one of the greatest all-time.
Marino lost his super bowl to Joe Montana and a 49ers team that went 15-1 in the regular season.  1985 49ers > 2014 Seahawks.  This loss hurts Manning, IMO, because it was pretty clear his team was caught unprepared.  Preparedness and leadership is supposed to be something he's great at.       

Both Manning and Marino suffered from being on marginally talented teams which, for the most part, relied on their very talented QB making plays to win.  Counter that to Tom Brady, who I'll grant is talented but has always had a very strong organization, coaching staff and system to support him.  Without Brady, the Pats are STILL a good team.  Without Manning or Marino, their teams would fall apart.  

Don't believe me?  Remember when Manning was out for the season?  If memory serves the Colts whent 2-14 after having gone 10-6 the previous year.  Consider this picture as you think on that. I think it says it all.

The Colts decided to build their entire offense around Manning from the day they drafted him.  He pretty quickly became the offensive coordinator as well.  It's no shock that losing your QB and your OC for an entire year will throw your offense into a tailspin. 

Manning will go down as one of the best of this era, no doubt.  I'd put him a rung above Marino on the all time list, but he needed this game to be in the discussion for the greatest QB of all time.

P.S. - Manning even falls short for broadest shoulders in the history of the NFL.  John Elway took 3 Denver teams to the Super Bowl that would have likely had losing records without him under center.   :old:


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Re: Super Blowout
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2014, 09:40:33 AM »
Marino lost his super bowl to Joe Montana and a 49ers team that went 15-1 in the regular season.  1985 49ers > 2014 Seahawks.  This loss hurts Manning, IMO, because it was pretty clear his team was caught unprepared.  Preparedness and leadership is supposed to be something he's great at.       

The Colts decided to build their entire offense around Manning from the day they drafted him.  He pretty quickly became the offensive coordinator as well.  It's no shock that losing your QB and your OC for an entire year will throw your offense into a tailspin. 

Manning will go down as one of the best of this era, no doubt.  I'd put him a rung above Marino on the all time list, but he needed this game to be in the discussion for the greatest QB of all time.

P.S. - Manning even falls short for broadest shoulders in the history of the NFL.  John Elway took 3 Denver teams to the Super Bowl that would have likely had losing records without him under center.   :old:


Elway was 2-3 in Super Bowls.  Manning is 1-2.  Pretty close.  I have never been a Elway fan as he's an arrogant a__ IMO but I'd still have the say he's one of the greats and I'd still stack Manning over him.  I agree Manning is not the greatest ever as I think that has to go to someone like Montana.

I also do not feel Tom Brady is greater than Manning, or any of the other QBs discussed thus far,  Except for Trent Dillfer.  :)
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Re: Super Blowout
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2014, 09:43:51 AM »
The best thing about the Super Bowl was Bruno.


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Re: Super Blowout
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2014, 09:44:49 AM »
Edited. Dumb moment.
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