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Offline LCADolby

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Captured aircraft skins
« on: March 05, 2014, 11:19:09 AM »
Why aren't we allowed these in our 3 sided totally non-WW2 Sandbox?

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Re: Captured aircraft skins
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2014, 03:17:17 PM »
I know I would love to do a German b-17 and b-24 but I can't something about no field modifications. It is like we are not aloud Assembly ships. I anything which was I the second world war should be aloud, anything which will inrich the game
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Re: Captured aircraft skins
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2014, 06:05:19 PM »
I can understand the rule against using captured aircraft that weren't put into regular service, but things like the P-40s the Japanese captured in the Philippines and then put into regular IJAAF service seem like they ought to be allowed.
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Re: Captured aircraft skins
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2014, 06:05:29 PM »
Well we do have a Jap C-47 skin although I think they had it before ww2 started.
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Re: Captured aircraft skins
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2014, 07:20:11 PM »
Well we do have a Jap C-47 skin although I think they had it before ww2 started.

The Japanese made the DC3 (C47) under licence.
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Re: Captured aircraft skins
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2014, 05:00:07 AM »
Both the Japanese and Soviets built DC-3 variants under license and these are allowed as skin substitutes by HTC. What is and isn't allowed as a variant for skinning is a complicated issue and if there is any likelihood of a skin being rejected I'll always ask HTC before starting it.

My take on the captured aircraft and assembly ships not being allowed is this: Such an aircraft was not being used in RL for the same purpose as it will be used in the game, i.e a combat aircraft. Assembly ships were old retired airframes stripped of armour and guns and painted up brightly as a focus for formations to form up on. Once the formation was ready to head for its target the assembly aircraft turned back to base before getting anywhere near the enemy. Captured aircraft were used for testing or training but not for combat.

The Japanese P-40s that were used for combat are an interesting case. Has anyone asked HTC about them? I guess it would depend if it was a long term use at squadron level or just a handful of sorties. Possibly HTC would just kill it to avoid "If we can have a Japanese P-40 why not a......" all the time.




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Re: Captured aircraft skins
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2014, 05:12:27 AM »
Captured aircraft were used for testing or training but not for combat.
I contest this for the case of captured P51s. If I recall correctly one was downed by a 332nd Redtail in combat.
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Re: Captured aircraft skins
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2014, 11:27:58 AM »
If I recall correctly one was downed by a 332nd Redtail in combat.
One wasn't downed but it was definitely spotted. It's mentioned in the TV series 'Dogfights' by one of the pilots himself.
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Re: Captured aircraft skins
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2014, 11:53:27 AM »
The Japanese made the DC3 (C47) under licence.

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Re: Captured aircraft skins
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2014, 11:57:09 PM »
I also faintly recall an episode of dogfights where a jug pilot was limping home and saw another jug.  Thinking it was a squadron mate only to see it painted in Luftwaffe colors.  Maybe I'm confusing this with the example given in regards to the Mustang.   :headscratch: