A-36A Apache Attack plane

[colmbo]

Actually no 51A version is needed only difference is the motor between it and the 51B ......

Different belly scoop, different engine cowling and different propellor.

[Megalodon]

Different belly scoop, different engine cowling and different propellor.

Same 4x50's and same 2x500 same bird cage

We would get the engine in the P51 and A36 plus better armament options ...4x30's and 4x50 or 4x20mm ...as well as 6x50 and 2x500 with dive brakes.

3 new and different options to the 51B.

Respectively,

[Karnak]

I must argue against the desire to cheese the game with rare 20mm cannon versions of things that in game will massively overshadow the historically common version.  I don't want four 20mm on Spit Vs, I don't want four 20mm on P-51s and I don't want four 20mm on A-20Gs.  The common armament is good enough for the Ki-84 and it ought to be good enough for Spit Vs, Allison Mustangs and A-20Gs.

Now, if a perked loadout system is added, sure, add them as perk options, but without that control mechanism I don't think it would be good for the game.

[Megalodon]

I must argue against the desire to cheese the game with rare 20mm cannon versions of things that in game will massively overshadow the historically common version.  I don't want four 20mm on Spit Vs, I don't want four 20mm on P-51s and I don't want four 20mm on A-20Gs.  

I think lots of folks would enjoy a jaunt in "Betty Jean"  



pretty Kickrear with an Allison  



 

[Karnak]

I think lots of folks would enjoy a jaunt in "Betty Jean"  
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Many people would enjoy blasting WWII fighters from an F-22 as well.  That doesn't make it a good idea.

[BuckShot]

Would the typhoon still be better than an a-36 with 4 20mm? if so, why not have the cannon version?

[Ack-Ack]

Would the typhoon still be better than an a-36 with 4 20mm? if so, why not have the cannon version?

A-36 didn't have cannons.

ack-ack

[Panic]

Some versions did.

[Sunka]

Great BIG YES! Should have been added long ago,give us a pony that has to stay and fight!

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[Ack-Ack]

Some versions did.

Survey says...


The A-36A (the only version produced) carried 6x .50 caliber machine guns, two in the upper nose and 4 in the wings.

ack-ack

[Widewing]

Only the Mustang Mk.Ia had cannons. 54 of the number built were retained by the USAAF. Two of these served as the airframes for the XP-51B conversion.

P-51A serving with the 1st Air Commando Group in China....


Mustang Mk.I with chin guns.


Mustang Mk.1a with four Hispanos


P-51 (no letter designation applied). 54 retained by USAAF.


Mustang Mk.II, chin guns deleted (very similar to P-51A).


A-36A. Same gun installation as Mustang Mk.I, with dive flaps added.


XP-51B-2 (second of two converted to Merlin).


Mustang X and XP-51B-1 (first of two converted to Merlin).


One of two XP-51Ds, converted from P-51B airframes. Bob Chilton at the controls.

[Widewing]

When very well maintained, the P-51A was pretty sporty down low....

[Ack-Ack]

When very well maintained, the P-51A was pretty sporty down low....

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Didn't trial the USAAF conduct with the P-51A state that it was the best low altitude fighter in USAAF inventory?

ack-ack

[Widewing]

Didn't trial the USAAF conduct with the P-51A state that it was the best low altitude fighter in USAAF inventory?

ack-ack

At the time of the test (mid 1942, I think), yes.

[Widewing]

British testing of the Mustang MK.II (similar to P-51A) with F4R engine also shows pretty impressive performance at low to medium altitudes. This thing would be faster than our P-51D down low, faster than the 190D too. Looks like a dead heat with the La-7 from sea level to 8,000 feet. With the F20R engine, 409 mph at 10,000 feet is mighty fast for a mid 1942 fighter. Being 1,200 lb lighter than the P-51B (full internal fuel and ammo), it should turn much better. As the chart below shows, the P-51A would be very competitive in the Late War arena, and may dominate in the Mid War arena.



Based upon this....