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Offline lunatic1

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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2014, 05:11:00 PM »
I'll use an example of a time I have used the broken mechanic just so that nobody can accuse me of whining.

I upped a Tiger II into a spawn on one of the TT maps. (Can't remember which one) I downed a few panzers and such before somebody figured out what I was in. Latrobe and two others in T-34's used berms as cover to flank me and we engaged in a fight at point blank range during which I was able to kill all of them multiple times despite being repeatedly turreted, tracked, and having my engine killed because some kind soul decided to help me out by spamming M3's and supplies. The mechanic is clearly broken, and again, just because you like it doesn't mean it shouldn't be fixed.
ok so your complaining that somebody gave you supplies several times to fix your 100 to 250 point perked tank...and your complaining about it.wow,talk about looking at a gift horse in the mouth...would you had your tank blow up instead????
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2014, 05:22:37 PM »
lets see--in wwii you had trucks to deliver mechanic's and supplies to damaged tanks--although i doubt they could carrie enough 75mm and 88mm and 105mm shells to resupply a tank-i'll give you part of that..and they did not have mechanic's with wing's to fly up to the planes that were damaged or out of ammo..so planes have to rearm and refuel..but maybe they should limit the amout of supplies a m3 can carry..or have an m3 only carry 1 box at a time per damaged vehicle..
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2014, 05:25:01 PM »
ok so your complaining that somebody gave you supplies several times to fix your 100 to 250 point perked tank...and your complaining about it.wow,talk about looking at a gift horse in the mouth...would you had your tank blow up instead????
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #63 on: March 12, 2014, 05:28:20 PM »
It is? Seemed to work fine for me, I dropped supplies to a buddy and he got them  :x    No complaints.
heck--last night 3-11-14 i ran supplies to friendlies 3 or 4 times..if i'm in a non-perked tank-and enough people are hollering for supps i'll tower (usualy giving away a free kill to someone)and run supplys to friendlies.it's no big deal to me.
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2014, 05:29:58 PM »
Yes that was his point.
so he wanted to lose his high dollar tank'weired.
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2014, 05:34:11 PM »
so he wanted to lose his high dollar tank'weired.


I was out-maneuvered and out-driven during that fight. I absolutely deserved to lose my Tiger II and they absolutely deserved to win. I came out on top purely because I was able to abuse a silly, gamey mechanic and it should be changed.
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2014, 05:35:28 PM »
I was out-maneuvered and out-driven during that fight. I absolutely deserved to lose my Tiger II and they absolutely deserved to win. I came out on top purely because I was able to abuse a silly, gamey mechanic and it should be changed.

Why did you pick up the supplies?
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2014, 05:47:23 PM »
Because he was using a "broken game mechanic", just like he said.
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #68 on: March 12, 2014, 06:06:24 PM »
Why did you pick up the supplies?

Because when something is available you tend to use it. Remove temptation.
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2014, 03:13:14 AM »
Why did you pick up the supplies?
When they fight, most player will use any tool available to them even if they do not think it should be possible.
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ReVo is a fine example and should be commended that he brings forward his case as an argument to change a broken game mechanic.

lets see--in wwii you had trucks to deliver mechanic's and supplies to damaged tanks--although i doubt they could carrie enough 75mm and 88mm and 105mm shells to resupply a tank-i'll give you part of that..and they did not have mechanic's with wing's to fly up to the planes that were damaged or out of ammo..so planes have to rearm and refuel..but maybe they should limit the amout of supplies a m3 can carry..or have an m3 only carry 1 box at a time per damaged vehicle..
Tanks were and still are resupplied in the field between fights. This usually means just fuel and ammo. Repairs in the field are done by towing the tank back from the fire line to a safe location (or on the spot if the tank was left behind after the fire zone has advanced forwards) and doing minor damage repair. It is not like the field mechs carry an entire workshop with them. There's only so much they can do with a screwdriver a can-opener and a piece of gum. My dad did this in two wars. He has some funny stories about improvisations they did, but it's not like they repaired half-destroyed tanks.

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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2014, 04:20:48 AM »
The supply (fuel and ammo) is not at hand in the immediate battle zone, you are not likely going to park  ammo truck (or lightly armoured apc) next to a tank that is in a forward position, shooting or get shot at.

Normally you go some minutes off position to get your fuel and ammo, and get fed at the same time.
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #71 on: March 15, 2014, 06:51:58 AM »
I don't mind the idea of M3's being able to resupply/repair vehicles. I just think that there should be a thirty second to one minute timer on the repairs and ammunition resupply. I am fine with supplies instantly righting an overturned tank.
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2014, 08:48:53 AM »
I don't mind the idea of M3's being able to resupply/repair vehicles. I just think that there should be a thirty second to one minute timer on the repairs and ammunition resupply. I am fine with supplies instantly righting an overturned tank.

Well if everyone is going to remain up in arms over the realism of recovery and resupply then, like I said earlier, add a deuce and a half to the game for plausible resupply and then also add the M32 TRV or the Bergepanther (SdKfz 179) to the game for tank recovery. To sweeten this deal Hi-Tech could award points for successful recovery operations under the vehicle tab.



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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #73 on: March 15, 2014, 09:48:46 AM »
I've been playing a lot of Arma 3 lately.  Their process for repairing broken vehicles requires everyone to be out and one person to use a "repair kit" item.  It doesn't take that long but you can't really do it under fire.  To me that's a good compromise between realism and ffs I just want to play a game. 
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Re: Stop vehicle in-field repair.
« Reply #74 on: March 19, 2014, 01:08:32 PM »
Because when something is available you tend to use it. Remove temptation.
just because you don't like or want to be resupplied-doesen't mean others don't want to be resupplied--if i drive to a far spawn say 3-to-5 map miles and get damaged i want to be supplied/repaired..and so do others--esp if they have a perked tank.
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