New anti-tank weapon

[hlbly]

Many soviet tanks ran on gas including the T-34. The T-34 had so many variations it is unreal. The most exotic power plant in a T-34. One that ran on coal dust.

[Denniss]

All soviet tanks produced from ~1939/40 on used Diesel engines.

[glzsqd]

+1 on the condition that the "bat-bomb" ordnances package is added to the B29

[lunatic1]

A Panther has much more armor than an M4.  If you truly hit the broadside of an M4 that would be 31.8mm of armor VS a Panther's 50mm.<--- part of mk-84's statement.
you would think so,but my panther has been killed many times by an m4-with a 1 shot direct hit to front chassis--just like a panzer is not supposed to be able to kill a t-34-85 from 2k way while on the move.but i've done it several times.the panther has 4" amour on the front 2 on sides and rear...m4's actually kill panther's easier than panther can kill it. at least in this game.

[bangsbox]

A Panther has much more armor than an M4.  If you truly hit the broadside of an M4 that would be 31.8mm of armor VS a Panther's 50mm.<--- part of mk-84's statement.
you would think so,but my panther has been killed many times by an m4-with a 1 shot direct hit to front chassis--just like a panzer is not supposed to be able to kill a t-34-85 from 2k way while on the move.but i've done it several times.the panther has 4" amour on the front 2 on sides and rear...m4's actually kill panther's easier than panther can kill it. at least in this game.

are you aware of the panthers glass chin?

[lunatic1]

are you aware of the panthers glass chin?

yeah i know,i've been a victom many times---probaby by you a few times  lol

[Denniss]

are you aware of the panthers glass chin?

??????

[RotBaron]

yes please do tell why my panthers take 1 shot at distances of 1.5+ in front quite often and poof...

And yes M4's seem to take a beating in AH, contrary to any story I've ever heard by US tankers.

[bangsbox]

??????

Look at the armor chart in game for the panther. under the front glacial plate is a large weak spot (the glass chin).  its 50mm and i dont know the angle but it looks like 60 degrees. The panthers main front glacial plate is 80mm at "i think" almost a 45 degree angle.

the m4 76 can penetrate 115mm at 1k and 97mm at 2k. i hear (from the technical guys around here), that from 600 to 1k the m4 76 can penetrate the front hull except for a chin shot, but because of the angle the round comes in at ranges from 1+k to something like 1.6k or 2k it can penetrate the front 80mm plate. Anything past 1.6 or 2k (what ever the exact range is) the panther immune to penetration from the m4 76.

[Denniss]

Both upper and lower hull armor have the same 35 degree angle, upper hull is 80mm, lower hull is 60mm. I fail to see how anyone could hit the lower hull for a penetration except the mysterious bouncing round or you fire from below at a Panther exposing it's belly.
A turret front penetration outside of the gun mantlet may be possible or if a hit bounces off the lower gun mantlet onto the hull top armor.

[matt]

David Wales has returned 

[bangsbox]

Both upper and lower hull armor have the same 35 degree angle, upper hull is 80mm, lower hull is 60mm. I fail to see how anyone could hit the lower hull for a penetration except the mysterious bouncing round or you fire from below at a Panther exposing it's belly.
A turret front penetration outside of the gun mantlet may be possible or if a hit bounces off the lower gun mantlet onto the hull top armor.

You are incorrect sir. The panther (a,d,g what ever we have. I think I heard A model) we have has only a 50mm chin and you can hit it without trouble until gravity drops the round's arc too much (like 1k ish).

[Denniss]

Every Panther produced had the same layout, 8 cm upper hull at 35 degrees (from horizontal, 55 from vertical), lower hull 6 cm with the same slope.
In a normal tank engagement on flat terrain you can't hit the lower hull, you need a projectile flying strait to this area but no other tank/afv fires from a position low enough to hit it reliably and with sufficient penetration power. That's why I mentioned a Panther exposing its belly (hull in upwards angle).

[bangsbox]

Every Panther produced had the same layout, 8 cm upper hull at 35 degrees (from horizontal, 55 from vertical), lower hull 6 cm with the same slope.
In a normal tank engagement on flat terrain you can't hit the lower hull, you need a projectile flying strait to this area but no other tank/afv fires from a position low enough to hit it reliably and with sufficient penetration power. That's why I mentioned a Panther exposing its belly (hull in upwards angle).

Correction i think we have the G model and to save weight the lower hull armor was reduced from 60mm to 50mm and thats why in game if you look at the armor chart it says 50mm

[Coalcat1]

+1 on the condition that the "bat-bomb" ordnances package is added to the B29

       +1 on the main topic and this idea. Should also add the V1 as an option for the 111 too.

                                                    Coalcat1