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Re: Large TV as your monitor
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2014, 12:34:11 PM »
I can't see any reason why not. Of course it's very much depending on the game, but AFAIK at least AH supports even 4k resolutions already now. The triple monitor guys run them all the time! And IIRC there was a picture of someone's gaming surroundings with five monitors in portrait mode, which in FullHD means 5400x1920. A large 4k TV would look very nice in AH, if I only could afford that!

4k monitors are very bad for gaming because they need an extremely beefy graphics card. But if you have money for a quad xfire R9 295x2...
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Re: Large TV as your monitor
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2014, 12:52:43 PM »
4k monitors are very bad for gaming because they need an extremely beefy graphics card. But if you have money for a quad xfire R9 295x2...
As I said: If I only could afford that... The 4k TV sets still cost more than a serious gaming rig with an extremely beefy graphics card - which of course would also be needed... But if I had some 10k money which I couldn't imagine a better way to use for, such a combination might be nice. OTOH 8k is already on the way...

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Re: Large TV as your monitor
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2014, 03:27:04 PM »
I can't see any reason why not. Of course it's very much depending on the game, but AFAIK at least AH supports even 4k resolutions already now. The triple monitor guys run them all the time! And IIRC there was a picture of someone's gaming surroundings with five monitors in portrait mode, which in FullHD means 5400x1920. A large 4k TV would look very nice in AH, if I only could afford that!


  From what I've read the bandwidth just isnt available with normal connectors.

  30fps was the best they could get and IIRC they had to use 2 connections to the vidcard just to get those results.

   I wasnt happy to find this out as I was hoping a large 80 in 4K monitor would make it so I could finally see the airplanes I'm shooting at!


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Re: Large TV as your monitor
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2014, 09:36:30 PM »

  From what I've read the bandwidth just isnt available with normal connectors.

  30fps was the best they could get and IIRC they had to use 2 connections to the vidcard just to get those results.

   I wasnt happy to find this out as I was hoping a large 80 in 4K monitor would make it so I could finally see the airplanes I'm shooting at!


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Re: Large TV as your monitor
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2014, 03:13:07 AM »
As I said: If I only could afford that... The 4k TV sets still cost more than a serious gaming rig with an extremely beefy graphics card - which of course would also be needed... But if I had some 10k money which I couldn't imagine a better way to use for, such a combination might be nice. OTOH 8k is already on the way...

Not really since the R9 295x pair costs 3000 dollars just by themselves  :rock

The cheapest 58" 4k tv seemed to be about 2500 euros the last time I checked.
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Re: Large TV as your monitor
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2014, 03:14:29 AM »

  From what I've read the bandwidth just isnt available with normal connectors.

  30fps was the best they could get and IIRC they had to use 2 connections to the vidcard just to get those results.

   I wasnt happy to find this out as I was hoping a large 80 in 4K monitor would make it so I could finally see the airplanes I'm shooting at!


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If you want to see your things better you have to get a 80" full hd tv. Going to 4k is going to make your pixels again much smaller.
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Re: Large TV as your monitor
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2014, 09:02:59 AM »
The TV is the BESTBUY in house brand " INSIGNIA" nothing special does have multiple inputs; digital, VGA, HDMI, I    just used the HDMI since the Xbox one was laying there, not sure how you would turn off the TV enhancing modes though, the video button does have a game mode option along with the theater mode, engery savings and what not modes, not sure if that would do it , will have to read up on that, was kinda of a spontanous effort, think I would have to make a chair or something to hold the stick throttle, holding the stick in my lap seam like it would be less than desirable.

Thanks for the responses, will be fun to mess with.



Tell ya what. The INSIGNIA puts out a surprisingly nice picture. Least the 32" does.
We picked one up for my son for Xmas a few years ago.

I was using a 32" Emerson as a monitor for a while. Other then some occasional very slight ghosting. I saw no problems other then it was so frikken big on my desk. On the upside. It did make everything life size LOL
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Re: Large TV as your monitor
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2014, 07:07:39 PM »
If you want to see your things better you have to get a 80" full hd tv. Going to 4k is going to make your pixels again much smaller.



  Right now I use a 55in LG tv running 1920 by 1080.   I dont have an issue seeing the dots,the pixels are rather large so I often see them before others do.

  My issue is I was legally blind several years ago,I had implants installed to help correct the problem and I can see quite well at distance which makes it so I can drive again. The problem is the focal length so I have to sit atleast 3 feet away from my monitor,futher back is even better for me. I have a set of glasses to use with the computer but if I move even slightly I have to wait for my eyes to focus again and it's a pain.

   The problem I have is when the planes are 1k to 200 yards away,incloser I can see them fine but at the D200 to 1k range I can only see the icon!

  I took the wife to look at a home theater,well it was an excuse to look at projectors!

    I found the solution but it cost about 15 grand! :devil and that doesnt include any sound systen just the projector!


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Re: Large TV as your monitor
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2014, 07:03:06 AM »


  Right now I use a 55in LG tv running 1920 by 1080.   I dont have an issue seeing the dots,the pixels are rather large so I often see them before others do.

  My issue is I was legally blind several years ago,I had implants installed to help correct the problem and I can see quite well at distance which makes it so I can drive again. The problem is the focal length so I have to sit atleast 3 feet away from my monitor,futher back is even better for me. I have a set of glasses to use with the computer but if I move even slightly I have to wait for my eyes to focus again and it's a pain.

   The problem I have is when the planes are 1k to 200 yards away,incloser I can see them fine but at the D200 to 1k range I can only see the icon!

  I took the wife to look at a home theater,well it was an excuse to look at projectors!

    I found the solution but it cost about 15 grand! :devil and that doesnt include any sound systen just the projector!


   :salute

You don't need to spend 15 grand to a projector, you can get a full hd JVC D-ILA model for 3000 bucks. It has an excellent contrast and sharp image + its 3D ready. A friend of mine has one and to be honest, I find the contrast even too much when we watch a movie in the darkened room. I have to squint my eyes for the first couple of minutes.

But regarding to 4k - with your condition you will want _less_ pixel density not more. 4k will make an individual pixel so small that even people with normal vision will have trouble seeing them.

You might want to take a look at 'media' tv:s which are meant for public displays. They're large (up to 70"+) and have a low resolution of 1280x800. And theyre much cheaper than full hd 70" models too. With that kind of screen, pixels are relatively huge so you should be able to see dots again. Although I just checked and it seems even the info screens are becoming full hd lately.

Also if youre interested in projectors, there are special projecting surfaces that amplify your contrast even in daylight. They're pretty expensive but they give you a good contrast in normal lighting. http://www.dnp-screens.com/DNP08/Products/Front-projection/Fixed-screens/dnp-Supernova-One.aspx
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Re: Large TV as your monitor
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2014, 05:48:40 PM »
MrRipley,

  I dont have an issue seeing the dots in game,as I said the pixels are large enough so they are easy enough to see.

   Lower resolutions did help on my 24in monitor but when I went to my tv the lower res looked terrible so I just went with the native. As I said I dont really want a 4K tv,they dont work for gaming as of yet and since I need to sit futher back from my screen than normal I thought a 80 or 90 in HD TV might just fit the bill!


  Now I just have to sell that to SWMBO,that's where the $$$$ 4K's come in,I plan to show her those and the price points,then we can "settle" on a cheaper but larger model. :devil



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