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Offline earl1937

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Ground Effect
« on: May 17, 2014, 08:08:12 AM »
 :airplane: In aviation, an un-seeable force has some bearing on landings, called "ground" effect. What is it and how high above the ground was it effective?
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Offline Widewing

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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2014, 09:59:54 AM »
Ground effect is cause by downwash from the wing, usually at a height within one wingspan of the aircraft. It reduces induced drag.

Ground effect can "buoy" the aircraft on takeoff as well as landing. Ground effect can be limited by flairing a bit lower to avoid the float. Pilots flying float planes will usually see less ground effect than those landing on hot, hard runways.
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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2014, 02:33:08 PM »
deja vu
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Offline kvuo75

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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2014, 03:22:09 PM »
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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2014, 10:01:12 PM »
read a story (the name and link escape me) about a prop plane launching off a carrier and was way overloaded. he had to fly out in ground effect for a mile or two until he had enough speed to start raising flaps and climbing
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Offline Randy1

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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2014, 05:56:43 AM »
The Ruskies worked on a pure ground effects plane for sometime.  Their idea was to use it as an ocean fighter if I remember right.

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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2014, 06:10:08 AM »
The Ruskies worked on a pure ground effects plane for sometime.  Their idea was to use it as an ocean fighter if I remember right.

You're probably thinking about Rostislav Alexeyev's works, which culminated in the Ekranoplan KM and some other designs derived from it. His work is a really interesting topic, I recommend an excellent book on the subject: Soviet and Russian Ekranoplans, by Sergey Komissarov and Yefim Gordon (Midland). It cost me about 60$ here in Spain, and it was worth every cent! It's the most extensive and comprehensive work on this subject I've found so far.
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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2014, 06:28:09 AM »
The Ruskies worked on a pure ground effects plane for sometime.  Their idea was to use it as an ocean fighter if I remember right.

They used them as fast naval transports, and as anti-ship missile carriers. The missile carriers started entering service (only one was completed) just as the Soviet Union started falling apart in the late '80s.

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Offline ozrocker

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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2014, 07:28:30 AM »
You want ground effect ? Try a loaded Typhoon.
They seem to react to it most in game.

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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2014, 07:38:49 AM »
BTW good documentary about Russian ground effect planes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr8N0Z4Cl0U
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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2014, 11:49:46 AM »
I would think sooner or latter ground effects planes will find a useful place.

When fuel gets real expensive we might see cross country road-air ways  covered in grass built for large freight and passenger travel more fuel efficient ground effects planes.

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Re: Ground Effect
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2014, 12:27:03 PM »
You want ground effect ? Try a loaded Typhoon.
They seem to react to it most in game.


How so? What are you seeing that you're attributing to ground effect?
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