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Offline Bodhi

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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2014, 03:55:21 PM »
Ink, you are the one making statements about "combat ready" weapons.  I asked you what "combat" you have seen with these types of weapons that would qualify you to make that statement.  Please enlighten me.  From statements you made in the past, I find it very hard to believe you have the time to engage in "combat", especially with your commitments in other venues.

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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2014, 04:31:30 PM »
Jeez Bodhi...  :bhead

Can't a weapon be combat ready regardless of what combat experience the owner has? A soldier's rifle isn't combat ready unless the soldier is a veteran? That's just asinine.
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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2014, 05:20:13 PM »
Firearms and replica swords/axes are not the same.  A modern firearm that is operable is arguably "combat ready".  Replica stuff, I would think generally not so much.

The implication in the original "combat ready" post was what started this.
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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2014, 05:24:53 PM »
A non-stamped sword made recently is likely superior to the vast majority of what was used in combat historically due to improvements in metallurgy.  Not all modern made swords are stamped replicas.  Many are at the very least as combat ready as any sword carried into the fight at Agincourt or Crecy.
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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2014, 05:39:03 PM »
Ink, you are the one making statements about "combat ready" weapons.  I asked you what "combat" you have seen with these types of weapons that would qualify you to make that statement.  Please enlighten me.  From statements you made in the past, I find it very hard to believe you have the time to engage in "combat", especially with your commitments in other venues.




 :rofl

life is awesome :rock

I am surprised at how ignorant people can be...and here I thought life was done with surprises for me.

once again...if you ever stop and think before you type and realize that how you treat people will reflect on how they treat you.....I would have been more then willing to help you differentiate the difference between a sword that could be used in combat to one that could not.

now I just see you as another meatstick from the intardnet who I will never get to know or respect.

this will be my last post to you...I am done thinking down to your level...it is giving me a headache.

 

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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2014, 05:41:46 PM »
Firearms and replica swords/axes are not the same.  A modern firearm that is operable is arguably "combat ready".  Replica stuff, I would think generally not so much.

The implication in the original "combat ready" post was what started this.
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 Split another hair there bodhi. If you are going to try and be precise at least know the definition.

 Such as:

 combat ready

 Adjective

    S: (adj) active, combat-ready, fighting (engaged in or ready for military or naval operations) "on active duty"; "the platoon is combat-ready"; "review the fighting forces"

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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2014, 06:10:35 PM »
A non-stamped sword made recently is likely superior to the vast majority of what was used in combat historically due to improvements in metallurgy.  Not all modern made swords are stamped replicas.  Many are at the very least as combat ready as any sword carried into the fight at Agincourt or Crecy.

modern "stamped" swords are most often 440 stainless steel...which are definitely NOT combat ready...

a good video showing the toughness of stainless steel. :rofl :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kFgeZtkAb8

you are very right though...most modern hand made swords are better then the originals.

the Tiger Katana I had was folded....for aesthetics only....the steel used was far better then the original Katana's.

a easy way to tell a good sword form a cheapO.... 

does it rust?

Carbon steel rusts and needs to be oiled....stainless steel is very rust resistant, so needs no oiling.

thats not to say every carbon steel sword is combat ready....


ok here is a story...Saxman seems to know what he is talking about....he can tell me if I am lieing or not. ;)

I bought a Katana many years ago...nice spring steel....

I was young and dumb and foolishly tried to chop a log in half....

the tang bent right up and ruined the sword...I got pissed and smashed the flat part of the  sword against a tree...basically wrapping it around the tree into a "U" shape....


I threw it down.....the very next morning I went to get it....and that friggen sword was straight....the tang was still bent all up and no good...but that blade was straight...and only if you held it up to the light at an angle could you see a warp in the blade.

see that blade itself was combat ready...but who ever made it..used what is called a "rat tailed tang" very weak.....making it a non combat ready sword....

fixing it would be as simple as cutting off that crappy tang...and moving the Tsuka up onto the wide blade....then it would have been combat ready.

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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2014, 06:47:23 PM »
Correct that swords were made to be flexible. It should be noted, though, that katanas tended to be a bit stiffer, however, and lacked the flex of the European swords. They were certainly sharper (but really, it gets to a point of diminishing returns. A European longsword is no less effective in armored or unarmored combat than Japanese swords. Actually in the former case, quite the opposite. I'd rather have a longsword fighting an armored opponent than a katana) but were more prone to bending and breaking. European swords tended to have a more flexible blade (I've seen then flexed literally in half, and spring right back to shape again).
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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2014, 06:51:55 PM »
Correct that swords were made to be flexible. It should be noted, though, that katanas tended to be a bit stiffer, however, and lacked the flex of the European swords. They were certainly sharper (but really, it gets to a point of diminishing returns. A European longsword is no less effective in armored or unarmored combat than Japanese swords. Actually in the former case, quite the opposite. I'd rather have a longsword fighting an armored opponent than a katana) but were more prone to bending and breaking. European swords tended to have a more flexible blade (I've seen then flexed literally in half, and spring right back to shape again).

see..... I knew you knew what you were talking about... :D

I would take an Arbalest for the armored knight. :t



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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2014, 07:24:00 PM »
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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2014, 07:40:36 PM »
I would have this sword

part1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTGYwiMgzUU

part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogtVEHIhuKQ

sweet

wish I knew what the hell he was saying :rofl

anybody interested in awesome Katana's should look up Micheal Bell at Dragonfly forge.

he creates some amazing stuff...his cable blades are insane. :O

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damn bro....that sword is beautiful :O
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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2014, 01:36:41 AM »
Ink, You can laugh all you want, the reality is, you again get caught trying to imply something you are not.  That is was on the weekend that is dedicated to veterans and their sacrifices, is just further telling of how low you are willing to sink.

As you are done, now I am as well.
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« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2014, 02:28:19 AM »
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wow.....


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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2014, 04:01:25 AM »
For its history alone I'd have a Viking sword, but I'm really biased...  :)

It was quite the weapon in its time though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeGv_PU4ZkA
« Last Edit: May 26, 2014, 05:27:50 AM by GScholz »
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Re: Ink... You made virtual weapons...
« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2014, 04:12:06 PM »
 For me I'm torn,while I love the Kats and their beauty,also the manner is which they are used if it came down to it I think I would choose a rapier and dagger!


  2 blades for 2 distances,you have the option to slice or stab and the best part the 2 blades work together as 1 to block and pare and in close the dagger is often not even seen!

  A nice Toledo steel rapier is a match for any Kat,well almost any Kat!


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