P-70

[caldera]

No P-70 because it will generate the same thing as the LA-7 , everyone fly with 3*"20 and on a selected few flew it real life .

If the P70 become reality, 4*20mm ki84, 150 grade fuel,4*20mm p51 with 150 grade fuel and mk103 190s with r4m and gm-1, yak3p 3*20 could  become also be closer to reality with the same reasoning.

Qakebirds here we come.

<Devil's Advocate mode>  Don't you fly that space battleship, the 190A-8?

[-ammo-]

The 20mm's had a hell of a reputation for jamming.

HTC does not model unreliability.

Also, if it was produced and flew in squadron strength, that is enough to warrant inclusion

[Karnak]

HTC does not model unreliability.

Also, if it was produced and flew in squadron strength, that is enough to warrant inclusion

So long as you are OK with the .50 armed A-20G going extinct, sure.

[Coalcat1]

Do you go head on with a Typh, Temp, 110, 410, 262, Mossy, or anything else that has cannon? You can avoid the head on shots.

I go head on with 262s, and it's easy to win when you do   

[-ammo-]

So long as you are OK with the .50 armed A-20G going extinct, sure.

That's not my point.  I am simply stating the truth.  I am not a big A20 guy anyway but based on known criterion, this model should get the same consideration as any.

[morfiend]

So long as you are OK with the .50 armed A-20G going extinct, sure.

 Karnak,I'm sure you were around when the Chog was introduced and all we saw were Chogs everywhere.  The solution was a small perk cost,the only question would be the type of perks used,would you need fighter perks or bomber perks.

  I guess I dont understand,this comes up quite often and it's always the same lame excuses. Maybe,just maybe there's more guys afraid Cobia will be even more deadly because of the cannons,that I could understand but to be afraid of a bomber.......




   

[Karnak]

That's not my point.  I am simply stating the truth.  I am not a big A20 guy anyway but based on known criterion, this model should get the same consideration as any.

Agreed.  I just want controlls put on it so that the historically common version remains the common version.  A light perk cost would do nicely.  While they are at it a light perk on the three cannon La-7 would be nice, and a lightly perked four cannon Ki-84 added.

[-ammo-]

Agreed.  I just want controlls put on it so that the historically common version remains the common version.  A light perk cost would do nicely.  While they are at it a light perk on the three cannon La-7 would be nice, and a lightly perked four cannon Ki-84 added.

Concur on all points except a 4 cannon or 30mm Ki-84 should be perked like a C-Hog.  Depends on what you think "lightly perked" means.

[Karnak]

Concur on all points except a 4 cannon or 30mm Ki-84 should be perked like a C-Hog.  Depends on what you think "lightly perked" means.

C-Hog is lightly perked in my opinion.

[Drane]

+1 

this would be awesome plane to attack ground vehicles

[GhostCDB]

+1 

this would be awesome plane to attack ground vehicles

What do you possibly plane to do against a tank with 20mm's? Chip their paint?

You are probably one of those people who strafe TigerII's with a Spit16 hoping to kill it.
All 20mm's do to tanks with decent armor is make weird noises and make us laugh.

[Drane]

What do you possibly plane to do against a tank with 20mm's? Chip their paint?

You are probably one of those people who strafe TigerII's with a Spit16 hoping to kill it.
All 20mm's do to tanks with decent armor is make weird noises and make us laugh.

Laugh all you want. The gv guys don't when I'm near.

Kill them all the time. check my stats. (edit) Pilot name is Ringo.

[TheCrazyOrange]

Well hell, I guess if you pump enough rounds into the tracks, you've technically done the most damage. But if you think you're killing Tigers with 20mm's, it's physically impossible to do so unless one is flipped over.

[Fish42]

What do you possibly plane to do against a tank with 20mm's? Chip their paint?

You are probably one of those people who strafe TigerII's with a Spit16 hoping to kill it.
All 20mm's do to tanks with decent armor is make weird noises and make us laugh.

If HTC allowed us to load out different ammo types then you would fear 20mms in almost all tanks in AH.


  A.P. Mk III Performance:

Striking Velocity 200 Yards with 350pfs AC speed: 3200

Penetration at 200 yards (0 degrees): 67mm
Penetration at 200 yards (30 degrees): 48mm

Striking Velocity 400 Yards with 350pfs AC speed : 2850

Penetration at 400 yards (0 degrees): 51mm
Penetration at 400 yards (30 degrees): 38mm

These were available in late 43 for the Hispano cannons.

Even the earlier AP rounds would be workable in the Anti-GV role.

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96:hispano-20mm-armour-piercing-ammunition&catid=44:gunsrockets&Itemid=60

[Tinkles]

Well hell, I guess if you pump enough rounds into the tracks, you've technically done the most damage. But if you think you're killing Tigers with 20mm's, it's physically impossible to do so unless one is flipped over.

Seen a tiger and tiger 2 once each, that were upsidedown.

Tiger took 8k before it died, and the T2 took over 30k.  All were near-direct hits, was quite funny