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Offline jimson

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Re: AI Missions in the MA
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2014, 11:55:02 PM »
If i wanted to shoot down ai drones, I can go offline or perhaps download some missions and play for free.


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Again I'm not advocating AI in the main arenas but in the correct venue AI can be used to do things otherwise impossible here, like very large and realistic formations.

The point of online AI isn't to replace but to augment players particularly the less desirable roles such as bombers and transports.

Also there is a cool fog of war uncertainty never knowing when you are going to run up against real players or AI.

It's pretty cool to have huge bomber formations when the real players mostly pick escort or interceptor roles and the bombers give them an immersive and more historically correct game experience, protecting or intercepting the bombers.
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Re: AI Missions in the MA
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2014, 11:59:21 PM »
jimson, I totally understand your point.  but what keeps me coming back is knowing that I'll be fighting other players instead of AI.  that makes a difference.  at least to me.


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Re: AI Missions in the MA
« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2014, 02:03:00 AM »
The point of online AI isn't to replace but to augment players particularly the less desirable roles such as bombers and transports.

Also there is a cool fog of war uncertainty never knowing when you are going to run up against real players or AI.

It's pretty cool to have huge bomber formations when the real players mostly pick escort or interceptor roles and the bombers give them an immersive and more historically correct game experience, protecting or intercepting the bombers.

I do advocate AI in the MA if used as described above.  Advertising won't work if you can't retain players and I think more large formation realistic game play like you see in the Aces High TV ads would help in player retention.  The MA is very different from what is depicted in the ads.
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Re: AI Missions in the MA
« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2014, 02:13:55 AM »
Again I'm not advocating AI in the main arenas but in the correct venue AI can be used to do things otherwise impossible here, like very large and realistic formations.

The point of online AI isn't to replace but to augment players particularly the less desirable roles such as bombers and transports.

Also there is a cool fog of war uncertainty never knowing when you are going to run up against real players or AI.

It's pretty cool to have huge bomber formations when the real players mostly pick escort or interceptor roles and the bombers give them an immersive and more historically correct game experience, protecting or intercepting the bombers.

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That's why I support it :)

I don't want Ai randomly running around doing mundane (yet sometimes fun) things. That is the players job :). Having massive missions for boring or somewhat boring tasks (like you said) is what I thought of for AI in the MA.  That would be cool.
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Re: AI Missions in the MA
« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2014, 11:53:47 AM »
it is totally different.  you want to know how much, ask 999.


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Why? What could he possibly have to say?  

Nothing anyone could say changes the fact that a large formation of bombers looks better and is more entertaining than the three plane formations.

Everyone one knows it. You can't deny it.

Almost every one in the game has gotten giddy at least once after they stumbled on a large bomber mission.

And as an added bonus, it is closer to a historically accurate scenario and if it draws the scenario guys into the MA more often, then it benefits the game by giving them more of what they want and gives regular MA players more action.

If you don't like shooting at drones then don't, there would be nothing forcing anyone to engage them.  

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Re: AI Missions in the MA
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2014, 01:23:45 AM »
 For me, the staged missions are about historical immersion and best suited for a venue that doesn't have the any plane from any country dynamic. I suppose that in an MA type setting, AI bombers might be more palatable than AI fighters and provide a gathering point for fighter combat.

What I want to do with them wouldn't really fit in the MA, but it could still benefit the game as another thing for players to try at any time of the day.


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Re: AI Missions in the MA
« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2014, 11:41:12 AM »
For me, the staged missions are about historical immersion and best suited for a venue that doesn't have the any plane from any country dynamic.

No doubt the same for most scenario types.

But just like many other aspects of this game, three country set-up or free choice of aircraft for example, concessions are made to appeal to a wider demographic and keep the MA highly populated.

If done right, there could be enough formations in the MA that you could quickly organize a scenario (attackers and defenders) with specified aircraft in a "cold" part of the map.

It wouldn't be an exact historical scenario, but it could be enough to create sustainable interest in those types of activities in the MA between regular events.


I suppose that in an MA type setting, AI bombers might be more palatable than AI fighters and provide a gathering point for fighter combat.

Absolutely no AI fighters.


What I want to do with them wouldn't really fit in the MA,

It could all go in the MA, they just need to bring the game out of the last millennium.
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Re: AI Missions in the MA
« Reply #52 on: July 28, 2014, 02:27:59 AM »
+1

I cannot see what could go wrong with this idea. Nothing at all. :rofl
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Re: AI Missions in the MA
« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2014, 11:39:42 AM »
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