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Offline Scherf

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Western Front, 1944, Daily Situation Maps
« on: July 29, 2014, 07:57:56 PM »
I've posted this link before, but for those who've not yet seen it, this collection of maps shows the daily progress of the front line in the west, with both Allied and Axis units marked.

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=gmd&action=browse&fileName=gmd5m/g5701m/g5701sm/gct00021/ct_browse.db&displayType=3&maxCols=3&recNum=0&itemLink=r?ammem/gmd:@field(NUMBER+@band(g5701sm+gct00021))&title2=HQ%20Twelfth%20Army%20Group%20situation%20map%20%3a%20[Battle%20of%20the%20Bulge--France,%20Belgium,%20Netherlands,%20and%20Germany]%20%2f%20prepared%20by%20the%20Engineer%20Section%2012th%20Army%20Group.&linkText=Back+to+bibliographic+information

Best way to see the maximum detail is to download the JPEG2000 images and software.
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Western Front, 1944, Daily Situation Maps
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2014, 09:11:00 PM »
Not working for me.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: Western Front, 1944, Daily Situation Maps
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2014, 09:18:13 PM »
Bugga.

Hang on a sec, will try to get a better link.
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Western Front, 1944, Daily Situation Maps
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 09:40:32 PM »
Again Scherf? This is how you get your kicks sicko?
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Re: Western Front, 1944, Daily Situation Maps
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 09:47:29 PM »
Um, no kicks, was looking at the site this morning as was trying to determine whether Lisieux was in Allied hands on 30 July 1944. Mosquito was lost there to flak on that date- had it listed as friendly fire but figured I should double-check whether it was Allied or German AAA.

It's a very useful site for me, as it's the 70th year since the invasion, I figured other folks might be interested.

And yes, posted again, as per first line of my first post.

Closest I've come to get it showing back up again is this page:

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/h?ammem/gmd:@field%28NUMBER+@band%28g5701sm+gct00021%29%29
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Western Front, 1944, Daily Situation Maps
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 06:14:49 AM »
That would be Lisieux – Saint-Désir would it not as

Lisieux
(FR) (49 09 N – 00 13 E)
General: landing ground in N France 43 km E of Caen. Exact location of the landing ground not determined.
History: the landing ground is something of a mystery as no record of Luftwaffe aircraft being based there has been found. However, there were many Luftwaffe headquarters and ground units in Lisieux. One possibility is that it was a transit field and only used by light communications and courier aircraft.
Surface and Dimensions: no information found.
Infrastructure: no information found.
Satellites and Decoys:

Lisieux – Saint-Désir

(49 08 55 N – 00 10 40 E), decoy 3.25 km W of Lisieux.
 A former French civil airport. Outfitted with a painted runway and a fake hangar.
19 Jun 44: ordered to begin demolition of the airfield

http://www.ww2.dk/lwairfields.html

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Re: Western Front, 1944, Daily Situation Maps
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 07:17:13 AM »
I believe that's the one, yes. Turns out it was still well and truly in Axis hands on the date in question.

For whatever reason, the crew are buried in St. Remy, Calvados, also in German hands at the time.

http://broodyswar.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/30vii44/

The Air Britain series has the aircraft lost "near Lisieux" - perhaps that was the limit of their patrol line, as I can't see why the crew would have been moved to St. Remy for burial.

FWIW, here's the reason I use that map site - Lisieux's over on the right, St Remy lower centre. Front line is obvious, so not friendly fire after all.

... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB