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Offline Volron

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Re: Fw-190 half-wing landing
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2014, 12:35:02 PM »
Yet again an area where I have heard people crow on about unrealistic elements in AH (like surviving in a plane with half a wing missing) only to find that it happened historically.

Another pic I like in this regard:

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Re: Fw-190 half-wing landing
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2014, 04:23:07 PM »


It is an image from "TBF/TBM Avernger Units of World War 2," by Barrett Tillman.  The caption says only "This VT-82 [that's from the Bunker Hill] TBM lost half its port wing and most of the fuselage decking between the turret and its tail, yet kept flying long enough to make a successful ditching."

This site https://www.facebook.com/393166910813107/photos/a.393169424146189.1073741828.393166910813107/554896654640131/?type=1 with colorized version:



says:

Ensign Robert "Bob" T. King in his damaged TBM-3 'Avenger' White 113 of VT-82, USS Bennington (CV-20), 18th of February 1945.

 (Standard early 1945 colours were blue overall with the Bennington 'Christmas tree', or arrowhead, repeated on the upper starboard wing, overlapping the aileron.)

 This Avenger was subject to one of the most dramatic aircraft photos of World War 2.

 A mid-air collision resulted in the loss of nearly half the port wing, in addition to a five foot section of fuselage decking immediately aft of the turret. Bob King skilfully retained control of his doomed TBM long enough to make a successful water landing.

 On February 18,1945 his squadron was to attack shipping and waterfront installations at Chi Chi Jima in the China Sea. (240 kilometres/150 miles north of Iwo Jima).

 As they were approaching the waterfront installations they came under heavy anti-aircraft fire. An Avenger in a flight above them got hit by the anti-aircraft fire and it's right wing was blown off, it went into a spin and crashed into Bob King's plane. The propeller took off about four feet of the left wing and damaged the fuselage. The first Avenger crashed into the sea with no known survivors.

 Starting to lose control of his plane, Bob King ordered his crew to bail out. As he started to lose altitude he was able to regain some control of his plane and was able to make it back to the task force and made a water landing and was rescued.

 His crew of (Gunner) Grady Alvan York and (Radio) James Wesley Dye landed safely but were captured by the Japanese and both executed in captivity, on the orders of Japanese Navy Captain Shizuo Yoshii, who in 1947 was tried as a war criminal on Guam, found guilty, hanged and buried in an unmarked grave.

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Re: Fw-190 half-wing landing
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2014, 08:24:15 PM »
Just to join the "Wow, they survived crowd!", the old jug:

apparently hit by 20mm from a Bf-109



And we've ALL seen this B-17...


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Re: Fw-190 half-wing landing
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2014, 05:22:28 AM »
Just to join the "Wow, they survived crowd!", the old jug:

apparently hit by 20mm from a Bf-109

That jug looks more like it got hit with a 30mm round!

And I've always wondered what hit that B-17... A fighter? One of its fellow bombers? A weird flak hit?

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Re: Fw-190 half-wing landing
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2014, 06:21:00 AM »
A 30mm hit would be much worse...

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Re: Fw-190 half-wing landing
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2014, 09:55:22 AM »
That jug looks more like it got hit with a 30mm round!

And I've always wondered what hit that B-17... A fighter? One of its fellow bombers? A weird flak hit?

As I recall, it was an Fw-190 that collided with it.

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Re: Fw-190 half-wing landing
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2014, 01:17:58 PM »
There is this F-5 that collided with a Halifax bomber and managed to return to base.  Yes, that is one of the Halifax's vertical stabilizers stuck in the wing of the F-5.



And this P-38 that collided with a Bf 109 after a head on pass, notice the booms chewed up by the propeller and the detached horizontal stabilizer.  Don't know how the pilot managed to land this one.





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Re: Fw-190 half-wing landing
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2014, 05:27:01 PM »
That jug looks more like it got hit with a 30mm round!

And I've always wondered what hit that B-17... A fighter? One of its fellow bombers? A weird flak hit?

A Me-109 collided with it.  They figure the pilot of the 109 was either dead or severely wounded, as he just came rolling through the formation in an uncoordinated fashion.  The rear end of the B-17 broke off once it landed.
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Re: Fw-190 half-wing landing
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2014, 12:11:02 PM »
A Me-109 collided with it.  They figure the pilot of the 109 was either dead or severely wounded, as he just came rolling through the formation in an uncoordinated fashion.  The rear end of the B-17 broke off once it landed.

Tail-gunner crawled back through the gap first. Imagine making that crawl in flight...

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Re: Fw-190 half-wing landing
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2014, 02:54:51 PM »
Tail-gunner crawled back through the gap first. Imagine making that crawl in flight...
That would surely make my stomach drop!!
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