F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster

[Lusche]

Just found another pdf with data for the F8F-2. http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F8F-2_Bearcat_SAC_-_1_September_1949.pdf
Max speed at seal level is given as 336 knots, not 366. (At altitude, it's 388 knots)

Almost looks like a typo in the first document to me.

[BnZs]

Just found another pdf with data for the F8F-2. http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F8F-2_Bearcat_SAC_-_1_September_1949.pdf
Max speed at seal level is given as 336 knots, not 366. (At altitude, it's 388 mph)

Almost looks like a typo in the first document to me.

387mph? That seems more in line with common sense. 

[WWhiskey]

I'd still love to fly it!
 

[bozon]

387 mph at sea level and the 0.5's armament instead of the hispanos would make it something that the MA can swallow given a hefty perk cost. 421 mph sea level, quad hizookas, and the beast's climb and turn rates on the other hand would make it a total horror. Still, just to put thing in perspective, 387 is about the max speeds of the Mosquito VI and the F6F - attained at 22,000 feet...

I have about 12,000 fighter perks with almost nothing to spend them on. How high can HTC perk it?

[Rob52240]

Perk it double or triple that of a 262 since it never saw combat.
Or perk it @ the same level as a 262 to fly it but one must wager all of their points if they do fly it.

I think it could be a fantastically fun addition to the game.

[glzsqd]

Thing would still be a unrivaled monster considering most of the fighting takes Place under 15k and it would have the static climb rate of a k4 and the diving ability of the other american planes.

Its also important to remember that the f8f was armed with newer m2 Browning which had a improved rate of fire over the ones that equip the majority of American rides. Now from what I hear, the new machine guns had reliability issues, but that wouldn't be modeled in the game.


If we see the f8f than I think the p63 should also be introduced.


Did the Corsair and F6F ever fly with higher octane fuels like the p51 and p47?

[Widewing]

Just found another pdf with data for the F8F-2. http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F8F-2_Bearcat_SAC_-_1_September_1949.pdf
Max speed at seal level is given as 336 knots, not 366. (At altitude, it's 388 knots)

Almost looks like a typo in the first document to me.

Not a typo...F8F-2 had a different version of the R-2800, supercharged for medium altitude performance. The -1 was engineered for the anti-kamikaze mission, whereas that need disappeared before the -2 was engineered.

You gents need to do a better job reading the data sheets, because the answers to everyone's questions are right there....

F8F-1


F8F-2


Both courtesy of Mike Williams.

[BnZs]

Perk it double or triple that of a 262 since it never saw combat.

This makes not a lick of sense. Perks should be based on performance, not rarity. If rarity were a standard we'd have to perk the Ta-152, P47M, and 3 cannon LA7s.

[Slade]

had four 0.5 in guns and the Hispano-equipped version was introduced post-war.

So our version would just have 4 x .50 cals.  Hardly a huge perk monster threat.

+1 to add it.

[Oldman731]

I already proposed a speculative "1946" arena. BUT, such an arena is probably pointless, come to think of it. If they added such, it would probably just become the arena with the vast majority of players by default

Agreed.

I suppose that AH doesn't have to be a WWII game, but if it is to remain such, you have to draw the line somewhere.  Operational makes as much sense to me as any other standard.

- oldman

[GScholz]

AH isn't just a WWII game. There's WWI as well. A Korean War arena wouldn't be out of place.

[glzsqd]

AH isn't just a WWII game. There's WWI as well. A Korean War arena wouldn't be out of place.

Yuck.  I would not stick around if they put in a Korean war arena. If it was up to me I'd only ever fly mid war and early war.

[Widewing]

Yuck.  I would not stick around if they put in a Korean war arena. If it was up to me I'd only ever fly mid war and early war.

So, you would quit if they made a Korean War Arena? I'm searching for the logic in that....     Are they compelling you to fly in it?

By the way, it IS up to if you want to only fly early and mid war arenas. Who else determines where you fly?

[glzsqd]

The reason I don't fly in the Mid and Early war arena is because they are both empty. The Late War is the only Arena that sees a relatively consistent amount of traffic throughout the day. If a Future "Korean/1946 Arena" was to inherit the MA population than I would probably try my luck in other sims that don't cost a monthly subscription.

the best performing Planes aren't very interesting to me. Id rather fight ki-43s with a P40 than fight Ki-84s in a P51, Spit1/5/9 VS 109E/F rather than Spit8/14/16 vs 109G14/K4.

If I'm forced to have to deal with f86s and mig15s when all I want to fly is a P40C p47d11 f4u-1 etc, than I might as well do it for free in a game like War Thunder.




Probably could have made myself Clearer, but I made that other post from my phone on the train.

[Debrody]

Just found another pdf with data for the F8F-2. http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F8F-2_Bearcat_SAC_-_1_September_1949.pdf
Max speed at seal level is given as 336 knots, not 366. (At altitude, it's 388 knots)

Almost looks like a typo in the first document to me.

387mph on the deck, ~440 at altitude, 5500+ft/min climb rate... that would be something unique.
Turn rate like an FM2... not too much. As far as i can remember, a simple 109G6 can give an FM2 a really hard time in the scissors, both in the flat and in the rolling. Thats quite good but absolutely nothing special.
4*50cals... meh... this plane would have to slow down - be vulnerable - to get a kill. BnZ or hin-n-run isnt all that easy with 4*50cals.

IMO this aircraft wouldnt be a game breaker at any level. Especially when perked around 30.