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Offline Gman

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Re: Four Movies
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2014, 04:21:04 PM »
Hackett's book got me started and interested regarding the Cold War and ww3.


Also, a great utube film put together with clips from the 80s, with actors and r/l combined, has some excellent footage of Nato and Soviet forces.  It's called "World War 3, the movie", and can be difficult to find.  It's up again on youtube, but who knows for how long, once it's gone again, it becomes very difficult to find.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yXTCEZkjQ4

Catch it while you can, this is the first of 10 parts.
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Re: Four Movies
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2014, 01:54:18 AM »
What about Trinity and Beyond?
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2014, 09:02:52 AM »
My years in service was probably when the American military was weakest against the Soviet threat. This being '77 to '81. I was aware of it, training was kinda poor, morale was low, we had repeatedly been humiliated on the world stage. The worst of which being the Hostage crisis of '79. Being young I wasnt worried about anything but I was certainly aware of it. I was also on ground zero of our strategic response guarding it. And that response, both ours and the Soviets, was on hair trigger 24/7. We came close to Doomsday several times with accidents alone, and if we had accidents and miscommunications/errors in classifying threats? Imagine how many the Soviets had? Its kind of a miracle we survived those decades without a catastrophe.

Young people today have no idea the constant terror of WW-lll we used to live under. The alert level has been lessened, we both have far fewer deliverable weapons then we had "tho still plenty to wipe us all out", the Bombers are off the hot pads. Now there is probably more danger to a third world nuclear exchange, or terrorism use, then there is a super power attack.

At the time I honestly didnt think anything would ever change. But all things change. I think the height of the stare down was when we moved in Pershing-ll's and cruise missiles into Europe back in the mid-'80s. The Reds never really had an answer for cruise missiles and by then we had the initiative again technologically which forced them to the bargaining table for the IRNF treaty. It was during the '70s however that I believe was the biggest danger. We were all basically living for the day back then, thinking it really was only a matter of time.

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Re: Four Movies
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2014, 05:40:30 PM »
Try to find "On the Beach", made in 1959.  Set in Australia, absolutely fantastic film.  It and "Fail Safe" had by far the most impact of how I think of Nuclear War.

The book was good, didn't know about the movie. Thanks!
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2014, 04:35:15 PM »
 was an 'apocalyptic' novel that was made into radio drama...I had copied it to cassettes(dial in time it was produced by that) from NPR...had main character living through attack on new york, while other cities were hit..I remember they made a crude radiation detector that I remembered from science class, a mason jar..some aluminum foil. DC was big crater.. Brits were somewhat left and brought some help, with severe triage of those sick w/radiation poisoning. Was several 'shows' long. The SW US was 'Asatlan'..california could only be accessed by train that did not slow down for a few hundred miles and where they hunted down and segregated/killed if necessary people that were 'hot'...
 Authors(believe there were 2) were to make a sequel but couldn't agree so none was made.
 Was VERY good radio drama, but I can never remember name, and can't find a cassette of series I recorded.
 Any ideas on title..y'all so well read and all....
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2014, 09:11:56 PM »
 Found it... War Day, by Whitley Strieber and James Kunetka....
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Re: Four Movies
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2014, 09:50:45 PM »
The Day After scared the hell out of me.

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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2014, 11:41:15 PM »
The Day After scared the hell out of me.

Which was a movie that portrayed a very moderate nuclear exchange. One we had no reason to believe would happen but I think the producers of the movie needed a world still around after, a semblance of one, to at least tell the story in the movie.

At its height in 1987 America alone had 2,000 launch vehicles able to deliver almost 14,000 warheads. And this is just ICBMs, Bombers, and SLBMs. The Soviets had 2535 launch vehicles and 11,000 nuclear warheads, "again just ICBMs, Bombers, and SLBMs. This isnt even including IRBMs in Europe,  or Jabos with their gravity weapons. The F4 Phantom was able to deliver a B61 nuke that blew at 340 kt "Hiroshima was 16 kt".

So if the movie told the story of what actually would have happened it would have been a very short movie. The end of the human race, maybe all life on earth, was just one phone call away back then.
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