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Offline Viperius

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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2015, 05:20:47 AM »
Almost as good as Nation's Pride.

And the Ventura thing, never happened. Was a lie by Kyle to promote his book. Ventura sued Kyles estate and won.

http://www.oregonlive.com/lake-oswego/index.ssf/2014/07/chris_kyle_trial_jurors_warn_t.html


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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2015, 05:46:18 AM »
So you didn't see the movie,, ok!
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2015, 08:24:01 AM »
Almost as good as Nation's Pride.

And the Ventura thing, never happened. Was a lie by Kyle to promote his book. Ventura sued Kyles estate and won.

http://www.oregonlive.com/lake-oswego/index.ssf/2014/07/chris_kyle_trial_jurors_warn_t.html



Virtually every SEAL asked said that they would take Kyle's word over that of Ventura...

That said, Ventura was told in no uncertain terms, that if he EVER shows up at any SEAL function, party or event, he WILL be leaving on his back. Any courtesy he received in the past is done and over. He is now a pariah.

Meanwhile, Kyle's wife is appealing the verdict... Her lawyers are expected to present an eyewitness, who came forward after the jury decision. I would not be surprised at the case being overturned.

Indeed, I would be delighted. 
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2015, 09:39:35 AM »
Agreed this movie was mediocre.  I thought the film meandered and wasn't sure what it wanted to say.  Hurt Locker was a much more cohesive film
Is that a troll? Hurt Locker was a pathetic excuse for a war movie.
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2015, 10:26:49 AM »
Just watched American sniper I thought it was a good movie right up until the last Chapter at which point it became a great movie
 :salute Sgt kyle not for his kill rate but his work saving others from the aftermath of war
Just a little footnote the worlds longest range sniper kill , taken by a British shooter who also had a better hit ratio and is still alive
How about a movie about him but that wont happen as The film industry is controlled by the USA and don't want the rest of the world to know that the British Soldier is better trained and less trigger happy hence less blue on blue and lower collateral damage
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Re: American Sniper
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2015, 10:31:34 AM »
Almost as good as Nation's Pride.

And the Ventura thing, never happened. Was a lie by Kyle to promote his book. Ventura sued Kyles estate and won.

http://www.oregonlive.com/lake-oswego/index.ssf/2014/07/chris_kyle_trial_jurors_warn_t.html



I dont care if it happened or not. Only a low life would sue a mother and child who just lost a husband and father over a supposed slight in a book saying he lost a fist fight. Has the world gone mad? What kind of jury or judge would even punish this girl and kid like that? Over this? In the end it all comes down to the money doesnt it?

I hope the Military family expels Ventura from it. For sure I bet he'll never show his face at a Navy bar again. Honestly I think all those 'roids he took back in his wrestling days made him kinda whacko.
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Re: American Sniper
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2015, 02:57:34 PM »

Just a little footnote the worlds longest range sniper kill , taken by a British shooter who also had a better hit ratio and is still alive
How about a movie about him but that wont happen as The film industry is controlled by the USA and don't want the rest of the world to know that the British Soldier is better trained and less trigger happy hence less blue on blue and lower collateral damage

Better trained? Doubt it! All the best Brits came to the America a few hundred years ago.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2015, 05:32:19 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2015, 05:38:22 PM »
Just watched American sniper I thought it was a good movie right up until the last Chapter at which point it became a great movie
 :salute Sgt kyle not for his kill rate but his work saving others from the aftermath of war
Just a little footnote the worlds longest range sniper kill , taken by a British shooter who also had a better hit ratio and is still alive
How about a movie about him but that wont happen as The film industry is controlled by the USA and don't want the rest of the world to know that the British Soldier is better trained and less trigger happy hence less blue on blue and lower collateral damage

 Are the British incapable of making a movie? Or do they need the Americans to help with that too.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2015, 05:48:54 PM »
How about a movie about him but that wont happen as The film industry is controlled by the USA and don't want the rest of the world to know that the British Soldier is better trained and less trigger happy hence less blue on blue and lower collateral damage

Yes, that is surely what it is all about, leaving British accomplishment out of Hollywood films because, well that is what Hollywood does.  They all get together and try to figure out how to insult other countries,(like you just did).  They certainly never make movies to make money.

Is there any possibility that no one would want to pay good money to watch a tea drinking, limey gnawing, no teeth ingrate, embellish his wartime exploits on the big screen?

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2015, 07:02:41 PM »
Woah guys..woah.


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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2015, 07:07:00 PM »
Zoney, that's just crazy talk.  U571 was a fine film that gave the British their due.



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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2015, 10:18:23 PM »
Just watched American sniper I thought it was a good movie right up until the last Chapter at which point it became a great movie
 :salute Sgt kyle not for his kill rate but his work saving others from the aftermath of war
Just a little footnote the worlds longest range sniper kill , taken by a British shooter who also had a better hit ratio and is still alive
How about a movie about him but that wont happen as The film industry is controlled by the USA and don't want the rest of the world to know that the British Soldier is better trained and less trigger happy hence less blue on blue and lower collateral damage
He's in the Navy....so he is not a Sergeant.

And they aren't saying he is the best Sniper in the world, I'm sure in Sniper School he learned of many historically great Snipers around the world, known for many different shots...

Did they ever confirm that kill? Last I heard the body he "dropped" was never found.
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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2015, 11:16:41 PM »
The movie was "OK". Some actual events were not true or enhanced for Hollywood, "at least according to Kyles own words in his book".

Im not sure how the special forces community feels about the Self-aggrandizement , the money making, or the coming out in whats supposed to be a secret community. Thats for them to judge. Not me, not you. These guys, all branches, go thru hell for what? a 1% raise this year? So what right would we have to say anything?

I guess the entire ego and money thing with this Ventura guy left a bad taste in my mouth. That and I remember another war we did the body count thing, its a bad way to go about business. But where the book, the movie, and Eastwood gets it right is the incredible suffering our troops go thru in these foreign war's, especially in that part of the world where Ive personally experienced the unrelenting hate. I suspect that was Kyles main purpose, and why he died the way he did. Helping other Vet's cope.

That should be his legacy. Not the body count.

I'd read a pretty scathing critique earlier today about how disingenuous the film was. No mention of Saddam, or WMDs, or any of the ACTUAL reasons the US gave for going into Iraq. Kyle is presented as a one-man army and the rest of the troops were utterly helpless and aimless without him playing Captain America to lead the way. The film acted as if there was no such thing as civilians, and everyone in Iraq was either a US soldier or an Al Qaida militant, and there was nothing in-between.
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Re: American Sniper
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2015, 02:20:11 AM »
I'd read a pretty scathing critique earlier today about how disingenuous the film was. No mention of Saddam, or WMDs, or any of the ACTUAL reasons the US gave for going into Iraq. Kyle is presented as a one-man army and the rest of the troops were utterly helpless and aimless without him playing Captain America to lead the way. The film acted as if there was no such thing as civilians, and everyone in Iraq was either a US soldier or an Al Qaida militant, and there was nothing in-between.

I totally agree in that. But its on the other hand not unique for this movie.
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