Author Topic: Something to help the players, and make HT $$  (Read 1345 times)

Offline Zoney

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6503
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2014, 10:54:09 AM »
The option to buy things in-game with real money would be a huge plus for both the players and Hitech. In order to keep the spirit of the game fair, we would like to avoid performance enhancers.

So things like:
Sunglasses... $15. One time fee. (Would be hugely popular)
Skins... $1-$5 a skin. Of course, we don't want this to be all of the skins. Additionally, we could use perks to buy skins!
Gamer tag colors... $5 a color. This can only be done if HT decides to set the main chats, country, local, squad, 200 to specific colors.

Thoughts? Ideas?

 :salute
JRjolly

-1

Maybe make it so a select few vehicles, examples would be the F8F, F7F, IS-3, P-80, and Vampire, could be sold as a package for say 15 bucks to unlock them and they still would have a perk price. Here's a way to add in those vehicles that just didn't make it.
[/quote]

-1 Absolutely, you're trying to sneak in aircraft that shouldn't be in.

Clearly you guys don't read the whole OP..

IF this was implemented, I would HOPE that HT wouldn't add micro-payments that effected the outcome of the game... No performance enhancing add-ons. Simply "appearance".

 :salute
JRjolly

Or maybe we did understand but we just don't like the idea.

Maybe make it so a select few vehicles, examples would be the F8F, F7F, IS-3, P-80, and Vampire, could be sold as a package for say 15 bucks to unlock them and they still would have a perk price. Here's a way to add in those vehicles that just didn't make it.
[/quote]
Wag more, bark less.

Offline jolly22

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1587
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2014, 11:04:49 AM »
-1
Maybe make it so a select few vehicles, examples would be the F8F, F7F, IS-3, P-80, and Vampire, could be sold as a package for say 15 bucks to unlock them and they still would have a perk price. Here's a way to add in those vehicles that just didn't make it.


-1 Absolutely, you're trying to sneak in aircraft that shouldn't be in.
Maybe make it so a select few vehicles, examples would be the F8F, F7F, IS-3, P-80, and Vampire, could be sold as a package for say 15 bucks to unlock them and they still would have a perk price. Here's a way to add in those vehicles that just didn't make it.


Why not Zoney? It's all optional money making ides for HT that doesn't affect the game play... So you don't have to buy into it personally.

3./JG 53 cheerleader - Battle Over The Winter Line - FLY AXIS - JRjolly

Offline fbEagle

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 584
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2014, 05:39:51 PM »
The system you are describing already exists in a game called War Thunder. have fun.  :old:
<Insert witty remark here>

Offline Ratsy

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 564
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2014, 07:58:08 PM »
-1  I wish HTC the very best in all things but not this.  One of the premises of micro payments is that the overall game be lacking (contrived need) or addictive in some way.  That is crap.  It's what happens when marketeers begin running product development.  Once you've paid a buck for a feature you already thought you paid for you might as well go light up a cigarette.

Sorry.

 :salute
George "Ratsy" Preddy
328th FS - 352nd FG
Died December 25th, 1944, Near Liege - Ardennes

Operating with the Arabian Knights - callsign AKRaider

Offline Meatwad

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 12900
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2014, 11:48:26 AM »
No, this isnt the crap on facebook
See Rule 19- Do not place sausage on pizza.
I am No-Sausage-On-Pizza-Wad.
Das Funkillah - I kill hangers, therefore I am a funkiller. Coming to a vulchfest near you.
You cant tie a loop around 400000 lbs of locomotive using a 2 foot rope - Drediock on fat women

Offline Lucifer

  • Probation 9/1/2017
  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 350
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2014, 12:04:00 PM »
Yes, one idea : Apply for wall-street, u'll be a fine asset for the financial rats there !  :rock

Gamer tag colors... $5 a color.
Thoughts? Ideas?

" Army Of Wolves "

Offline jolly22

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1587
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2014, 12:07:33 PM »
I guess I don't understand why you're all against it?

It's extra money for HTC that YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY. AND DOESNT affect the game play?

3./JG 53 cheerleader - Battle Over The Winter Line - FLY AXIS - JRjolly

Offline Arlo

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 24760
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2014, 12:21:18 PM »
I'd rather send him a check and a bottle of Scotch than see AH go the way of the micro-purchase model.

Do you understand that?

Offline jolly22

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1587
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2014, 12:35:28 PM »
I'd rather send him a check and a bottle of Scotch than see AH go the way of the micro-purchase model.

Do you understand that?

It's the best way to make money now a days in the gaming world.

I don't understand why you'd say NO when it wouldn't even effect you OR way more importantly the game play.

3./JG 53 cheerleader - Battle Over The Winter Line - FLY AXIS - JRjolly

Offline Arlo

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 24760
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2014, 12:51:31 PM »
It's the best way to make money now a days in the gaming world.

I don't understand why you'd say NO when it wouldn't even effect you OR way more importantly the game play.

If adding paid-for obnoxiousness sounds like it doesn't affect other players' online experience to you then I'm of the mind you never will. I don't want a 'rainbow' of tags around me. As for the other stuff - I already own a pair of shades. Paid for them, even. Charging for skins after the game has so many goods ones available for free is more of a player discouragement than encouragement. Pretty sure that won't bring more rev.

If Dale ever hints that the game is in financial crisis, I'll host the drive and write the first check.

Offline kvuo75

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3003
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2014, 01:16:18 PM »
It's the best way to make money now a days in the gaming world.

I don't understand why you'd say NO when it wouldn't even effect you OR way more importantly the game play.

we play this game because it's the way it is..  this is our choice.

if we wanted to play a micropayment game, we'd be playing it.


i'm curious if you spend time on competing games' forums suggesting they make their game more like aces high?
kvuo75

Kill the manned ack.

Offline Ratsy

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 564
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2014, 01:32:00 PM »

...if we wanted to play a micropayment game, we'd be playing it.


Something in this rang a bell.   There is a time and a place for everything, right?  Micro-payments are quite popular with the generation behind us.  Can't deny that.  So what if HTC created a 'Free' campaign-arena (AI opponents) and kept it separate from the game we play?  There's a pile of possibilities behind that, I'm sure.  If you pay 99-cents you can have a rudder...ad nauseum.  If HTC then markets the real Aces High to the Bizarro players...well...you get the idea.  It's one way to draw new players to where the quality is.

Sort of like cigars and beer on Pleasure Island, Pinocchio.  Except in this scenario they wouldn't be turned into a mule.  Quite the opposite.

Gotta keep thinkin'.

 :salute

George "Ratsy" Preddy
328th FS - 352nd FG
Died December 25th, 1944, Near Liege - Ardennes

Operating with the Arabian Knights - callsign AKRaider

Offline jolly22

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1587
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2014, 05:41:52 PM »
 :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead

Why don't you guys see the potential in this. There are players out there who are for and against everything, I understand. But you have to evolve to keep current with the generation. Micro-payments are the way of the future.. That's how little phone apps makes millions of dollars.

Now let's put that in the big game of Aces High. BOOM. Major profit.

The key, is to not interfere with the actual game play.

If different colored gamer tags bother you that much, freaking squelch them. As of now, you have Country, Range, Squad, 200... 4 Different colors.. Plus the country colors on map. So there's, let's say at least 5 different colors. If something like different colors bother you, then I have to say something is wrong with you.

I'm not saying that HT HAS to use these options as micro-payments, although I believe they're decent options. But you can maximize profit with micro-payments.

Keep flaming away. I'll rebuttal until I feel defeated.
 :salute
JRjolly

3./JG 53 cheerleader - Battle Over The Winter Line - FLY AXIS - JRjolly

Offline guncrasher

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17425
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2014, 08:33:18 PM »
jolly, step back and seriously look at your wish.  then imagine how many people would actually use it.  then estimate the developer time needed to implement this.  then after you do that.  then really think if HT would be willing to add stuff to the current version when he's actually working on a new version.

now we have no idea except for a few pictures of how the final version of ah3 is gonna look.  perhaps HT is already thinking of adding sunglasses.  perhaps no.  as for the tags.  what the heck is a different colored gamer tag is?  is that a different skin?  have you created one?  all skins are user created, I think.


semp
you dont want me to ho, dont point your plane at me.

Offline Ratsy

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 564
Re: Something to help the players, and make HT $$
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2014, 08:34:44 PM »
You didn't quote me, but in any event I wouldn't have taken offense.

I was looking for a compromise only.

Free 2 Play as a model that uses micropayments is a lie really.  It's been debated to death elsewhere on these boards.

Do you really believe that there is no substantive difference between something like War Thunder and Aces High?  Or Candy Crush, Angry Birds, or Clash of Clans?  Most of the 'protectionism' you've seen here is about protecting the quality of the game.  The continued success of a franchise like Aces High is built on a quality product, not gimmicks.  Elsewhere I've read that Call of Duty is a franchise because it exploits technology, has a compelling story line, is technically challenging and is packaged with high quality.  COD is dutifully maintaining the standards it set for itself over 10 years ago.

That is what you are reading from the Aces High subscribers who have posted here who also believe that the team at HTC has the same goals for quality and a realistic flight model (for a combat game) and that they have already built a franchise on.

I still like my suggestion, because I believe that once people see the quality they could be getting, they would give up the notion that a dollar will buy them an 'edge' and become subscribers.

I don't know how it will play out.  I'm an older fellow.  I can remember my own father's reaction to my American Flag T-shirt.  I thought it was patriotic in a funky kind of way.  He saw it as a desecration of the flag.  

F2P is like self-gratification in my view.  It's a poor substitute for the real thing.

 :salute

« Last Edit: December 14, 2014, 08:36:20 PM by Ratsy »
George "Ratsy" Preddy
328th FS - 352nd FG
Died December 25th, 1944, Near Liege - Ardennes

Operating with the Arabian Knights - callsign AKRaider