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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2015, 09:08:41 AM »
Would you go on a front that has an autonomous robot killing stuff there? I wouldn't.

The point is that the machines go instead of you. And it's not really a case of what you or I want, but the people in the gov/mil making the decisions. The boots on the ground rarely want to go to war at all under any circumstances.
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2015, 09:12:36 AM »
That bottom picture looks like a UCAV with a Sunburn or maybe a Chinese copy of that Mach 3 sea skimming anti ship missile they've made.  Talk about bad news for the CVN groups of the future - a bunch of super stealthy, small, numerous UCAVs with Mach 3 long range sea skimming missiles.  Good times, not so much.

It's the Russian MiG UCAV prototype. It didn't go into production as a drone, but they're continuing to develop it into an autonomous killer of some sort. Anything manned, big or small is not going to have the best survivability rate in the not so distant future.
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2015, 09:15:39 AM »
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Yep, she looks unmanned. I guess it would be against forum rules if she was manned at the time of photographing her.

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He sure is an exceptionally beautiful man. I wonder if he's Brian or Christopher.
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AM »

Hmmmm.  Guess you didn't see what happened to the droid army in Phantom Menace.

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Ironically those "droids" were actually drones controlled by the control ship in orbit. If thye were autonomous it wouldn't have mattered if the ship blew up.
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2015, 09:24:07 AM »
Look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_AXBcxDxL4

The old and the new. It's a paradigm shift. It's scary and beautiful at the same time.
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2015, 09:33:00 AM »
The Taranis looks positively evil. Which is a good thing for a weapon system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5FMwisjKpI
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2015, 09:39:06 AM »
He sure is an exceptionally beautiful man. I wonder if he's Brian or Christopher.

Lol that's a man? With earrings in the army?
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2015, 09:46:04 AM »
If it's his Reaper he must be Brian or Christopher. It says so! ;)

And it's the Air Force.
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2015, 10:02:34 AM »
The point is that the machines go instead of you. And it's not really a case of what you or I want, but the people in the gov/mil making the decisions. The boots on the ground rarely want to go to war at all under any circumstances.

That would require an army of autonomous terminators also.
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2015, 10:11:29 AM »
The US Army is currently operating thousands of UGVs. None of them are awfully sophisticated yet, but that will change before we know it. For obvious reasons the Israelis are very interested in UGVs and have come a long way.

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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2015, 10:36:39 AM »
Funny video of UGV progress the last 20 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YAPfB7jPkM
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2015, 02:38:58 PM »
UAVs are all good until some nutter runs into the C&C with bomb strapped to him or takes the power/ comms for the C&C out.

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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2015, 02:41:47 PM »
UAVs are all good until some nutter runs into the C&C with bomb strapped to him or takes the power/ comms for the C&C out.

Or someone hacks the autonomous killing machine to attack friendlies. The problem with programmed tools is that none of them are completely hack proof, especially if the device listens to comms while doing its mission.
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Re: New F35 issue - no cannon pew pew until 2019 due to software glitch
« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2015, 04:12:25 PM »
Has anyone hacked an F-16 yet? After all it is a computer controlled plane with comm links and everything a UAV has. The pilot would be a helpless passenger if someone got into the computer. How about an Airbus? No. Hacking a plane is something that only happens in movies. Jamming an old primitive radio controlled drone has happened. Big difference.

As one drone developer put it when asked about the danger of autonomous machines going haywire: It is only an issue if it consistently kills the wrong people. Then it's a product recall issue.
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