Which Diesel Truck

[JOACH1M]

In a fleet I can see that happening, of course it also is dependent on fleet size as well.  The really sad issue of it all is simply the Government mandates.   You won't find a rep of any kind anywhere from a major engine manufacturer that will say their company was happy to make the engines run cleaner.

The automotive/trucking industry was hardest hit, they simply didn't have the time to design and test ( hence why CAT pulled out of the truck engine market when they did) .  Those of us on the AG/Construction side had a little more breathing room.  Our FT4 motors now get better fuel economy, and pump more power than the IT4 / stage 3b motors for sure, and they do it without going into derate when running.  We are seeing up to 10,000 hours on DPF's as well..... thankfully.

One thing I would tell anyone who is looking at a diesel truck is this.  Regardless of brand, or motor.... You cannot do enough to make sure you have quality fuel, the fuel quality in this country is not great by any means.  Stay away from bios, don't store more than 30 days, buy from stations or distributors that you know are turning over product.  USE CONDITIONERS and also ANTI BACTERIAL additives in your tanks if you suspect you may possibly have a water issue, be it in the vehicle tank or storage tanks.  Keep the filters changed!!

Now on the 3 brands, GM is going to give the flat out best ride, it's what they do.  I like to think that the Ford is going to be a really good motor, I know presently they have had some issues, but  reflash of the ECU has been the cure for the issues they have experienced thus far.

The Dodge is a solid truck, and the cummins you can get worked on at most any decent truck dealership along the highways and byways..

Otherwise as stated, drive em all!  Pick the one you like!  Good luck!

The only way a lot of manufactures are getting away with emmissionless diesels In heavy equipment is having high horse power engines. Claus is putting 850hp Mercedes engines in their equipment now.

[Devil 505]

that would be the early 01-04 models. Lb7 engine name lly,lbz,LMM,lml were a lot better

They were still an issue on the later on the later models as well.

[JimmyD3]

Still driving my 1999 F-350, Crew cab Dually with the 7.3 liter Diesel, 240k so far.

[craz07]

Still driving my 1999 F-350, Crew cab Dually with the 7.3 liter Diesel, 240k so far.

thats what i'm talking about.. hopefully another 200k

[JOACH1M]

They were still an issue on the later on the later models as well.

hmm I had 200k on my 07 and my flow and return rates were almost perfect. 

[craz07]

i wish my my ninja 600 was diesel maybe it wound't be quite so disposable.. but at the same time it was exciting as could be when that rear wheel was putting 100 plus horsepower to the ground in such a light package!! 

[ebfd11]

How about the F650

[JOACH1M]

How about the F650
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Bet you it has a cummins in it

[Gman]

Lawndart, I love those uber-trucks, I've ridden in a quad cabbed Top Kick that had 2 huge air suspended front buckets and 3 across in the rear row that could come out and have a pretty wide custom bed put in for long trips/camping and whatever.  Very cool, but very impractical in the city so far as parking, or even in narrow lanes.

I think that Ford looks way better than the GMC Top Kick variants like it, in fact that's the nicest one I've seen.  I wonder what powertrain he has in that one.  I bet that's easily a 6 figure truck, the Top Kick I was in cost more than the owner's Zr1 at the time.  Look at the size of that fuel tank.

[Skuzzy]

I bet it is a Cummins engine and backed with an Alison tranny.

[Volron]

I haven't ran into many people who said many things bad about the Allison.

[JOACH1M]

I haven't ran into many people who said many things bad about the Allison.

I could show you different, but I am not one who had an issue with one. 

[j500ss]

Cool looking truck for sure 

My current service truck is a 2015 F-750.  Cummins motor (6.7) with Allison trans.  No complaints about the powertrain so far, seems to do ok given the way it is setup and weight (27,500lbs) .  I like the interior, and all the goodies ( sync system, power windows, nice sound system, air seat, tilt, cruise, air, heated mirrors)  but the seating position???  if your over 5'11" it SUCKS!!  and I am around 6'3"   

The lack of an upright rider cab is a joke! (I at one time heard they were going to reintroduce a cab that would be reminiscent of the old Louisville cabs)

 My 03 4400 IH was tons better all around in that aspect, and the 466 in it was bullet proof.  I had over 17,000 hours on that motor, it was got an in chassis at 13,000 hours ( piston kits, bearings, gaskets, and head work.... nothing else)   Trans (allison) was never touched except for normal service.

Even the big diesel motors will have their day of reckoning, it's just a matter of time. Even the railroads will have emission regs on locomotives when all said and done.

[JOACH1M]

A lot of the industry is moving to natural gas.