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Offline Karnak

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Re: Last New Plane Added?
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2015, 12:36:43 AM »
So?

I'd have that over the Stirling.

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Indeed, but performance wise the Halifax is so extremely similar to the Lancaster that it seems a waste of the effort it takes HTC to add a four engine airplane unless there simply isn't anything else left to add.  For British bombers the Wellington stands out as the biggest gap, by far.

As far as the effort to add big aircraft goes, I'd much rather see the H8K2 or He177 (and most people here know how I argue against the He177) than the Halifax because they would be distinctly different.  In medium aircraft the SM.79-II, Ju188A-1 and Wellington Mk III would be my top picks.  For fighters the Beaufighter, C.200, G.55, Ki-44 and J2M3 as well as the fighter sized D4Y and B7A.
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Re: Last New Plane Added?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2015, 12:42:27 AM »
Why are you opposed to the He 177? It seems like a pretty solid addition.
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Re: Last New Plane Added?
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2015, 03:36:04 AM »
Why are you opposed to the He 177? It seems like a pretty solid addition.
I think it would reduce variety in the MA.

It really depends on its actual performance numbers.  I've seen so many numbers listed.  At the low end it would probably just replace the Lancaster which would be ok, but at the high end it would pretty much replace the Lancaster, B-17 and B-24. Perhaps some of the mediums too.  It could be controlled with a perk price, but it just feels wrong to have to perk something that was a complete failure in reality to ensure that three successful aircraft aren't shelved by the failure.

But at least, unlike the Halifax, it would be something distinct.
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Re: Last New Plane Added?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2015, 03:48:19 AM »
IK we have the B25C & H but we need the J. The Cs are sitting ducks and the H has no formations or bombsight...thats my fav bomber and everyone i talk to wants it as well. + its beautiful decent defence, range, payload. Ive asked for it many many many times.



Also it was the most produced twin engine medium bomber america produced @ 9,984 from 39-45
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Re: Last New Plane Added?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2015, 04:03:12 AM »
IK we have the B25C & H but we need the J. The Cs are sitting ducks and the H has no formations or bombsight...thats my fav bomber and everyone i talk to wants it as well. + its beautiful decent defence, range, payload. Ive asked for it many many many times.



Also it was the most produced twin engine medium bomber america produced @ 9,984 from 39-45
B-25J would be nice to have, but when people talk about adding new aircraft they usually mean a completely new airframe, not just a new version of an existing airframe.

Hopefully additional variants are added as time goes on, including the B-25J.
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Re: Last New Plane Added?
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2015, 12:45:02 PM »
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Re: Last New Plane Added?
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2015, 01:25:13 PM »
I don't think the He 177 would replace B-24 and B-17 usage. While the lanc seems to be used purely for utilitarian reasons, the B-24 and B-17 especially seem to be used more for sentimental, and historical reasons.

Additionally, if the B-29 and Me 410 are any indication, the defense will be nowhere near as strong as it is on paper. Those remote turrets really do seem to be made of glass.

And given the historical weakness of the engines, I suspect it would be even worse than the B-29, and likely would be unflyable with one engine.

I imagine it would be rather like a larger version of the Tu-2 in some ways. Amazing on paper, good in reality, but still a tiny bit underwhelming.
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Re: Last New Plane Added?
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2015, 11:14:57 AM »
The Tu-2.  What a great bomber and really well modeled as usual. 

When was the TU-2 added - how many months ago?
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