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Offline earl1937

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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2015, 02:43:55 AM »
Are you nuts? The B-29 does just about everything better than every other bomber. It's only real handicap is its maneuverability and difficulty of takeoff.
:airplane: FYI on taking off in the 29's in this game! #1, when you "spawn" out on the runway, raise your flap setting to "zero", as it automatically spawns out with 50% flaps. Use "auto takeoff" function in the game! Do not takeoff from runways which have trees or other obstacles in the vicinity of the end of the runway.
Engage "wep" as soon as you start rolling on takeoff.
Your "wep" will last for about 4,000 foot of climb, so leave the thing alone and let it work like it suppose to.
try to make all turns with no more than a "standard" rate of turn of 3 degrees per second.
Just remember that below 200MPH IAS, the controls are sluggish and slow to respond.
After the "auto takeoff engaged" disappears from your monitor, do dot speed 175 for best climb performance!
Pay attention to your E6B power settings for best cruise performance and fuel management!
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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2015, 05:58:06 AM »
Sorry but B-29s flying regularly at 40k+ is just a fantasy. 30k+? Yes, absolutely.

So even with a witness to that film noting 40k B-29 its a fantasy?

Yes, absolutely.

I did not say "no B-29 ever reached 40k." I said "They do not fly at 40k regularly", because that's what you claimed.
And I still wonder what you are basing this claim on, because you rarely seem to engage B-29s in this game at all. I specifically hunt them up there, with up to several dozen kills of (and deaths by) them up there each tour. For a time I also tracked the altitudes I kill them at via film viewer for statistical purposes (to be found in my stats thread). If they indeed would fly at "40k plus regularly", I'd think I would have encountered them at some point. ;)


I was still climbing out when I came back & took the screen shot.


First thing I not apart from the bizarre rate of climb is "Burn Mult 1.0" ....
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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2015, 07:31:41 AM »
Typically buy the time you get to them bombs are already out & they are climbing & 40k plus is not unusual.
:airplane: Nope, doesn't happen! If you saw one at 40K, it would have no bombs and about 10% fuel left, with all the gun turrets thrown overboard and everybody but the A/C and the co-pilot had bailed out.
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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2015, 08:10:04 AM »
Ok, I did a full test. Fuel Burn 2.0, no wind, 50% fuel at takeoff, no bombs.

The bomber managed to get to 39k. It took the B-29 4 minutes to cover the last 100 feet. And at that point all climbing basically stopped, even though it had neither bombs nor fuel weight left, because a minute later it ran out of fuel. So in practice, the B-29s won't even be found at this theoretical max altitude.
Film is available.

Again, my not entirely insignificant MA experience has been confirmed: There are no B-29s flying "regularly at 40k+" in the MA. In hundreds of engagements I've never seen any, and the test showed why.
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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2015, 08:28:41 AM »
To be clear, I don't mean to insult.

Lusch has a positive reputation with data, you simply don't have a reputation of any kind. In fact, I can only recall seeing you on once.

Stating that he has no reputation?  Bull cookies.  Lyric contributes a lot to Aces High.  And his in-game time matters, how???
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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2015, 10:57:55 AM »
Yes, absolutely.

I did not say "no B-29 ever reached 40k." I said "They do not fly at 40k regularly", because that's what you claimed.
And I still wonder what you are basing this claim on, because you rarely seem to engage B-29s in this game at all. I specifically hunt them up there, with up to several dozen kills of (and deaths by) them up there each tour. For a time I also tracked the altitudes I kill them at via film viewer for statistical purposes (to be found in my stats thread). If they indeed would fly at "40k plus regularly", I'd think I would have encountered them at some point. ;)



First thing I not apart from the bizarre rate of climb is "Burn Mult 1.0" ....

My entire point I have been trying to make is that the perks needed are so high for B-29's that people will go to great lengths to protect them. Yes my stats on B-29 kills are few & far between because they just are not about anymore like they were. I still claim that when I have gone looking for them I have found them at 40k. After trying to engage them at that height in the past it is pointless so I turn around and land now or just fly in on their dead 6 & hope for the best.

Again we shall agree to disagree.

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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2015, 11:34:14 AM »

First thing I not apart from the bizarre rate of climb is "Burn Mult 1.0" ....

look at his airspeed

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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2015, 11:43:09 AM »
The flight profile of my test flight:



This flight took me diagonally across a large map, Ozkansas
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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2015, 12:11:07 PM »
:airplane: FYI on taking off in the 29's in this game! #1, when you "spawn" out on the runway, raise your flap setting to "zero", as it automatically spawns out with 50% flaps. Use "auto takeoff" function in the game! Do not takeoff from runways which have trees or other obstacles in the vicinity of the end of the runway.
Engage "wep" as soon as you start rolling on takeoff.
Your "wep" will last for about 4,000 foot of climb, so leave the thing alone and let it work like it suppose to.
try to make all turns with no more than a "standard" rate of turn of 3 degrees per second.
Just remember that below 200MPH IAS, the controls are sluggish and slow to respond.
After the "auto takeoff engaged" disappears from your monitor, do dot speed 175 for best climb performance!
Pay attention to your E6B power settings for best cruise performance and fuel management!

I'm perfectly capable of getting a B-29 off the ground, even when some trees at the end. It's simply more difficult.
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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2015, 09:43:48 AM »
I'm perfectly capable of getting a B-29 off the ground, even when some trees at the end. It's simply more difficult.
:airplane: Was not inferring that you were not capable of flying the 29, but there are a lot of people who read these post's which may be struggling with flying the 29 and all I was doing was passing along a tip about takeoffs in the bird.
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Re: B-29 Perks
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2015, 07:11:05 PM »
the reason some planes/gv's are perked is to basically lower their use due to their ability to really imbalance the game.  if you cannot earn 100 perks in a bomber in a day or two then perhaps you shouldnt be able to fly a b29 either.


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