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Offline Skuzzy

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Re: Need help finding a tuner card
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2015, 09:09:52 AM »
Its perfectly legal to record TV shows and movies off your antenna/cable/satellite box for personal use.  The US Supreme Court decided this in the old beta-max case, and it doesn't change just because you're recording it to a computer hard drive instead of a cassette tape.  You don't need a license from anyone.

You are correct.  For personal use only, it is legal to record a licensed broadcast video or sound transmission.
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Re: Need help finding a tuner card
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2015, 10:59:25 AM »
As for artists getting paid for or not depends on many things. Some years ago a musician said that he's glad that his music had been made available since his records had been sold out already in the sixties and the recording company had no intention of re-releasing them. So although he got no penny from YouTube, new generations could find his music and come to see his gigs. So in his case copyright violation brought him more audience and thus some income. It's safe to believe the musician in question didn't play in bands like the Rolling Stones or Beach Boys, nor was his name McCartney or Jackson...

I wholeheartedly agree that people should get paid for their work. In the case above the pay came the "wrong" way but was probably more than a re-release would have brought under the line. But yes, it's complicated. If I download a Beatles' or Elvis' album from the Internet, there'd be one record less sold and the income from it lost. But who would lose if I downloaded the album "Inferno" by John Buzon Trio? If something is available second hand only, then no matter how highly priced the items were, the original artist or the publishing company won't get a penny. Where to draw the line of everlasting popularity and obscurity?
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Re: Need help finding a tuner card
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2015, 11:20:58 AM »
There are a lot of things wrong with the current copyright system. 

Just try to get permission to use a copyrighted song on a personal video you want to upload to your Facebook page or Youtube channel.  It is virtually impossible to get permission for that.  The channels you have to go through and the cost associated with trying to get permission is prohibitive for something like that.

Yet, they will not hesitate to bring lawyers to bear if you do use it.

To add insult to injury, copyrighted works which are out of copyright are still copyrighted by the performers of the work.  Try and use any orchestral interpretation of anything by Mozart, for example, and they will come after you.

Fair use, as it is currently defined, is very limited as well. 
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Re: Need help finding a tuner card
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2015, 11:33:22 AM »
Skuzzy, sometimes I wish you could have access to the source code...
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Re: Need help finding a tuner card
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2015, 11:41:22 AM »
There are a lot of things wrong with the current copyright system. 

Just try to get permission to use a copyrighted song on a personal video you want to upload to your Facebook page or Youtube channel.  It is virtually impossible to get permission for that.  The channels you have to go through and the cost associated with trying to get permission is prohibitive for something like that.

Yet, they will not hesitate to bring lawyers to bear if you do use it.

To add insult to injury, copyrighted works which are out of copyright are still copyrighted by the performers of the work.  Try and use any orchestral interpretation of anything by Mozart, for example, and they will come after you.

Fair use, as it is currently defined, is very limited as well.

It's gone to stupid levels. They killed a whole genre of hip-hop by making it too expensive to sample even 60's jazz songs let alone newer artists.
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Re: Need help finding a tuner card
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2015, 04:12:11 PM »
An article I read recently said that the artists get less than a dollar per sold CD, all else goes to the labels. The tours are then again very lucrative for big names like Madonna etc. Each concert makes around 100k or more in profit.

My nephew went on tour for a few months with the rock band "Halestorm", and I guarantee they made nothing like that kind of money!


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Re: Need help finding a tuner card
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2015, 01:14:20 AM »
My nephew went on tour for a few months with the rock band "Halestorm", and I guarantee they made nothing like that kind of money!

Did they tour at the Wembley stadium or a local club? :D
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Re: Need help finding a tuner card
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2015, 12:59:37 PM »
Its perfectly legal to record TV shows and movies off your antenna/cable/satellite box for personal use.  The US Supreme Court decided this in the old beta-max case, and it doesn't change just because you're recording it to a computer hard drive instead of a cassette tape.  You don't need a license from anyone.

What about using fraps to record stuff off netflix and then selling it or posting it on pirate bay? 
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not that i would do that.

heck im still trying to cancel my hulu sub since all the shows i watch are not putting out any new shows for the time being.
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