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Offline PR3D4TOR

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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2015, 02:22:09 AM »
The weather is nice today. Partly cloudy with a chance of satellite debris. (Russian btw.)
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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2015, 02:31:42 AM »
"Is stronk debris."
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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2015, 08:48:45 AM »
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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2015, 08:53:53 AM »
The Russians could not have defeated the Narzzies without Stalin.

Stalin nearly destroyed Russia's ability to defend itself with his purges of the military before the war began. This combined with Stalin's absolutely naïve acceptance of peace with Hitler brought about disastrous results for Russia during Barbarossa.

If anything I would say that Russia held their ground in spite of what Stalin did before the war began, likely in more fear of their leaders than German bullets.

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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2015, 01:06:37 PM »
Stalin nearly destroyed Russia's ability to defend itself with his purges of the military before the war began. This combined with Stalin's absolutely naïve acceptance of peace with Hitler brought about disastrous results for Russia during Barbarossa.

If anything I would say that Russia held their ground in spite of what Stalin did before the war began, likely in more fear of their leaders than German bullets.

He was buying time as was the invasion of Poland to give some buffer room (not that it really did)

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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2015, 01:43:43 PM »
Stalin was buying time, but he never considered (naivety) that Hitler would break the pact early.
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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2015, 02:24:06 PM »
Buying time? How unsocialist of him...
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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2015, 06:24:05 PM »
Lets not forget Stalin was allied with Hitler at the beginning of the war, but always remember those Allied war heroes. I flew my colors today.
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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2015, 07:07:16 PM »
Russia was held together by one man Stalin before during and after WWII. 
Your statement is just as silly as saying The Germans would have won the war if Hitler had not come to power.

A bit of history that most people are not aware of (from the Stalin biography by Edvard Radzinsky):

The ascension of Hitler, as some saw it, was the result of a grave miscalculation on the Boss's (Stalin's) part.   He who had managed the Comintern as his own fief had forbidden the German Communists to ally themselves with the Social Democrats.  The anti-Hitler coalition was split as a result and had lost to Hitler. 

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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2015, 07:36:04 PM »
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Stalin nearly destroyed Russia's ability to defend itself with his purges of the military before the war began. This combined with Stalin's absolutely naïve acceptance of peace with Hitler brought about disastrous results for Russia during Barbarossa.

If anything I would say that Russia held their ground in spite of what Stalin did before the war began, likely in more fear of their leaders than German bullets.

I think 20 Millions of dead may confirm this.
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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2015, 09:32:53 PM »
The UK and US are not attending 70 years of VE remembrence in Russia.

How many did Russia sacrifice saving us from the Narzzies?

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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2015, 12:42:09 AM »
The thing that kind of irks me is that everyone seems to give russia credit for, and russia seems to try to take credit for, the victory of the soviet union in WWII. Most soviets weren't russian, and certainly most soviet men fighting the war were not russians. It seems unfair to the several other former soviet oblasts and the hundred or so other soviet ethnicities. It's just bad historiography. The west is probably more guilty of using the word russian interchangably with soviet than the russians themselves.
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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2015, 03:03:53 AM »
The British- english,welsh,northern irish,scottish.

The US- english,nordics,french,italians,polish,russians,syrians,armenians,japanese,chinese,germans.irish.

The glue that holds the US together is claiming decent from the above and being anoyed at each other and  everyone else who complains that they dont want cable tv.

The glue that holds the UK together is we dont care any more and have Big Macs and we had Winston Churchill even though he was half Yank was still awesome.

Roosevelt was English as well.

Musso and Adolf were poo.
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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2015, 05:32:05 AM »
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Re: VE day in Russia
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2015, 05:36:41 AM »
How many poles ruskies sacrificed while waiting on the borders of warsaw while the german forces demolished the town entirely - including its inhabitants. Only so Stalin could get rid of the radical citizens  of poland before "liberating" it.

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