Planes radiator cooling faster at high alt

[guncrasher]

I meant like talking a bunch of crap on 200.

exactly. 


semp

[icepac]

If they added realistic engine management, most would pop engines endlessly.

[artik]

Realistic engine modelling... reminds me IL2 and DCS...

You need to mode: radiator cover and its opening and closing, supercharger operating, startup procedures. Cooling dependent on an aircraft speed and what is more important learn the exact check-list for every damn aircraft and engine.

Believe me guys, you don't want it. You'll spend lots of time doing things that are both boring and distract you from the task. Considering that in AH you fly many different types and switching them every special event, and you don't get your check on an aircraft to learn all its tricks...

Bottom line, I flew IL-2 with guys that thought that this was "the thing - the ultimate realism" - and got back to AH.

I think HTC did a great job for distinguishing between stuff that needs to be implemented/modeled and stuff that does not.

[pembquist]

I think HTC did a great job for distinguishing between stuff that needs to be implemented/modeled and stuff that does not.

You got that right.

[Randy1]

Do this wish and you would have to throw in WEP injection tank size limiting total WEP time on some planes in addition to the time base wep now..

[bustr]

If you want to play with engines breaking down due to realism, play in the WW1 arena with the engine governor turned off. Then vulch players and use diving away to run to a reset at full throttle. Your engine will quit working quickly in either dive. And then you just wasted up to 10 minutes getting to the fight.

Hitech answered one of these requests for more realistic engine management\effects with, you are forgetting about the 30min you would spend on the ground getting ready to take off. I've often wondered over the years if his cryptic answers like this are a fair warning of how draconian he would code it. He has followed that up with saying in effect the game is about getting out there and fighting within the physics he coded. So he removed all of the extraneous time consuming parts and implemented his auto engine management for his environment.

And like someone kept repeating, most players would end up destroying their engine on almost every sortie. How many hours of ground school and cockpit time did the real pilots have to spend before they stopped being their engine's worst enemy in the air? The real world washout rate in WW2 would manifest itself in our game as players canceling their subscriptions and playing WT.

Say Earl, what was the real world startup check list, then all of the things you had to listen, feel and watch for with WW2 era engines when you flew them? How long did it take between starting the check list and wheels up on average?

[EagleDNY]

Having played Rise of Flight, I can tell you radiator management is a PITA.  Give this one a -1.

[Wiley]

If you want to play with engines breaking down due to realism, play in the WW1 arena with the engine governor turned off. Then vulch players and use diving away to run to a reset at full throttle. Your engine will quit working quickly in either dive. And then you just wasted up to 10 minutes getting to the fight.

Hitech answered one of these requests for more realistic engine management\effects with, you are forgetting about the 30min you would spend on the ground getting ready to take off. I've often wondered over the years if his cryptic answers like this are a fair warning of how draconian he would code it. He has followed that up with saying in effect the game is about getting out there and fighting within the physics he coded. So he removed all of the extraneous time consuming parts and implemented his auto engine management for his environment.

And like someone kept repeating, most players would end up destroying their engine on almost every sortie. How many hours of ground school and cockpit time did the real pilots have to spend before they stopped being their engine's worst enemy in the air? The real world washout rate in WW2 would manifest itself in our game as players canceling their subscriptions and playing WT.

Say Earl, what was the real world startup check list, then all of the things you had to listen, feel and watch for with WW2 era engines when you flew them? How long did it take between starting the check list and wheels up on average?

Ok, now instead of all that hullaballoo, what if they launched you in a plane that had already been properly preflighted and warmed up?

I think it might go over well in some scenarios, likely not in the MA.  ROI to implement would be erm... 'questionable'.

Wiley.

[colmbo]

Say Earl, what was the real world startup check list, then all of the things you had to listen, feel and watch for with WW2 era engines when you flew them? How long did it take between starting the check list and wheels up on average?

Once pre-flighted there isn't much else to do.  The pre-start check list and start on 4 engines takes much less time than it takes the engines to warm to 40C oil temp so you can taxi.

B-17

Preflight complete
Flight Forms checked
Fuel and oil checked
Doors and exits closed
Transfer valves and switches off
Flight controls free and correct
Generators On
Beacon light on
Strobes off
Static selector - tube
Ignition master switches on
Mag switches off
fuel valves open
Landing gear switch Off
Landing light switch Off
Flaps switch off
Fuel boost pumps off
Turbo Open
Avionic master off
Cowl flaps Open and locked
Mixtures idle cutoff
Props High RPM

Battery switches checked and on
Hyd Pump Check
Gear indicators - 3 greeen
Manifold pressure (noted for field baro power check during sunup)
Chip Lights and Hyd pressure warning lights - test
Parking brake set


Start:

Desired engine CLEAR and confirmed by ground crew
Boost pump on
Engage starter and count 6 blades
Primer on count 3 blades
Magneto On - engine will start on the 12th blade (usually) - tickle the primer to keep it running
Mixture to Auto Rich

After all started

Avionics master on
Oil Pressures checked
Boost pumps off
Vacuum checked
Temps 40C before taxiing


Oil Pressure check
Oil Pressure

[DREDIOCK]

We dont have problem with overheating engines.

You have obviously never had a radiator hit LOL