This week in the AVA--Hitler attacks pearl harbor--starts july 9, 2015

[captain1ma]

Hitler Attacks Pearl harbor











Hitler Attacks Pearl Harbor
December 7, 1941

Hitler is going to attacked Pearl harbor. He used his expansionism agenda
and his ties with Hirohito to manipulate the Japanese into Carrying
German planes with better technology to Attack Pearl harbor.
Pearl harbor will be attacked by waves of BF109E-4's, He-111's,
Ju-88's and stuka dive bombers. The vicious attack will be
swift and relentless. Hitler is now Fighting the
US in the Pacific in conjunction with the Japanese and in Europe
against the English, Polish and other European countries.
He already has a influx of lederhosen clad troopers and attack
Sheep ready to take the area over.

This is a "what if" setup. all comments, complaints and
suggestions will be considered. Please let us know what you think.

Planeset:

Allies:
P40C
P40E
F4-F wildcat
Sbd
Tbm
B17

Axis:
BF109T(Sub BF109E-4)
BF110C
HE-111
JU-88A-4
JU-87D-3

[FBKampfer]

I thought it was the British who attacked Pearl, and then blamed it on the Japs, to get the US to actually fight for British scones and that bitter piss they call beer.

[phatzo]

What, no helicopters!

[cobia38]

i,m pretty sure we americans had A-20s defending the islands 

[USRanger]

[waystin2]

LOL Awesome!

[Karnak]

Playful idea.

B-17G might be a bit much for those Axis fighters.

[Hetzer7]

Toga party afterwards?

[Sabre]

Where are the HE-111s and JU-88A-4 flying from? Surely not from the carriers. Doolittle had China available as a recovery point. I love what-ifs as much as anyone, but this requires too much suspension of disbelief (not to mention suspension of geographical reality). I realize you want to have torpedo capable planes, but Germany had none available that could operate from a CV. Since this is supposed to be a joint venture, why not substitute Kates for the German medium bombers? One of the Allies' greatest fears was that Germany and Japan would actively cooperate, or at least coordinate, offensively.

On another note, a what-if scenario I'd love to see is a 1945/1946 scenario where the Western allies (Britain and USA) going to war with the USSR after Germany's surrender (Patton: "Where gonna have to fight the d@mned Bolsheviks eventually...we might as well do it now, while we've got the army here to do it!"). There were numerous clashes between Russian and Allied forces as the Western and Eastern fronts ended. Any one of them could have resulted in general hostilities. Given Stalin's nature, he might very well of thought it was his only chance to completely "liberate" Europe, before the US completed it's Manhattan Project. He may have thought the West so war weary that they would not have the stomach for a new war, too.

Britain/USA:
B17/B24/B29
Gloster Meteor (sub Me262, or assume German jets captured)
Fighters (Any late war Allied iron)
GVs: any US/Brit vehicles

USSR:
Any USSR fighters/bombers/attack (USSR never retired anything) except I-16 (none left by this time), plus Me262 and Me163 (from over-run factories)
GVs:

[captain1ma]

I tested the carriers, ju88's and HE111 will take off from carriers. you just have to scooch to the left a little!

Sabre, this looks cool. ill see if I can find a good map for it and we'll try it.

On another note, a what-if scenario I'd love to see is a 1945/1946 scenario where the Western allies (Britain and USA) going to war with the USSR after Germany's surrender (Patton: "Where gonna have to fight the d@mned Bolsheviks eventually...we might as well do it now, while we've got the army here to do it!"). There were numerous clashes between Russian and Allied forces as the Western and Eastern fronts ended. Any one of them could have resulted in general hostilities. Given Stalin's nature, he might very well of thought it was his only chance to completely "liberate" Europe, before the US completed it's Manhattan Project. He may have thought the West so war weary that they would not have the stomach for a new war, too.

Britain/USA:
B17/B24/B29
Gloster Meteor (sub Me262, or assume German jets captured)
Fighters (Any late war Allied iron)
GVs: any US/Brit vehicles

USSR:
Any USSR fighters/bombers/attack (USSR never retired anything) except I-16 (none left by this time), plus Me262 and Me163 (from over-run factories)
GVs:

[shppr01]

Im thinking maybe the ava finland map, or bob 43 might work!

[captain1ma]

i,m pretty sure we americans had A-20s defending the islands 

Cobia, I may consider this when the carriers get the BF110C...

tested JU88's, HE111's, and BF110's on carriers. while totally unlikely, you can take off and land on them.
this could turn out to be a really interesting setup.

[captain1ma]

flew it last night, what a hoot!!! thanks to the guy that came in and killed me several times. was fun!!!

[USRanger]