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Re: Any WWII Art Collectors out there?
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2015, 02:08:38 PM »
Are you sure about the cowl being painted in squadron colors? I never noticed a D series 56FG P47 with anything else other than a white or red cowling.
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Re: Any WWII Art Collectors out there?
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2015, 04:24:01 PM »
Are you sure about the cowl being painted in squadron colors? I never noticed a D series 56FG P47 with anything else other than a white or red cowling.

Yes I am sure.  I have a color plate of a P47D6 with a blue nosed cowl band of the 56th FG 63 squadron  Lady Jane flown by Lt. John Truluck  in March 1944.  Tail number 274750.
Halesworth March 1944.

Also a P47D 10  Rozzie Geth Lt Fred Christenson a white Cowl Band of the 62nd FS tail number 275207.  Halesworth again march 1944.

P47D-5 Lucky of Robert. Johnson 61st FS Red Cowl Band 61st FS Halesworth February 1944.  Tail number 28461( yes only 5 numbers.)

Some cowl bands were still white as they were transitioning colors.....in all squadrons.  They eventually went to red in all three squads and went with differing colored rudders as you know.  There ya go.  Three differing cowl band colors in same timeframe of 1944 out of Halesworth.
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Re: Any WWII Art Collectors out there?
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2015, 08:34:51 PM »
Wow! That's some really cool items you guys have.
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Re: Any WWII Art Collectors out there?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2015, 10:50:18 PM »
Yes I am sure.  I have a color plate of a P47D6 with a blue nosed cowl band of the 56th FG 63 squadron  Lady Jane flown by Lt. John Truluck  in March 1944.  Tail number 274750.
Halesworth March 1944.

Also a P47D 10  Rozzie Geth Lt Fred Christenson a white Cowl Band of the 62nd FS tail number 275207.  Halesworth again march 1944.

P47D-5 Lucky of Robert. Johnson 61st FS Red Cowl Band 61st FS Halesworth February 1944.  Tail number 28461( yes only 5 numbers.)

Some cowl bands were still white as they were transitioning colors.....in all squadrons.  They eventually went to red in all three squads and went with differing colored rudders as you know.  There ya go.  Three differing cowl band colors in same timeframe of 1944 out of Halesworth.



 February 1944 and the 56th FG set a new trend for 8th AF fighter units by painting the cowls with nose bands in squadron colours. These were red for 61st, yellow for 62nd and blue for 63rd. The three noses represented here are: 61st FS 42-75508 HV-B_ “Pistol Packin’ Mama” of Praeger Neyland; 62nd FS 42-75237 LM-S “Whack” of Dave Schilling and 63rd FS 42-75185 UN-X “Princess Pat” of Lt. Charles Reed. These colours only lasted until March 1944 when 8th Fighter Command decided on the system of coloured noses to represent the Group rather than the individual squadron, with the 56th then taking their distinctive red noses as their Group Identification.

 


How about that, even the most 'P47 crazy' guy since AH was created can learn new things about juggies. Thank you Hajo. They had squadron nose colors for 1-2 months.
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Re: Any WWII Art Collectors out there?
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2015, 11:20:21 PM »


 February 1944 and the 56th FG set a new trend for 8th AF fighter units by painting the cowls with nose bands in squadron colours. These were red for 61st, yellow for 62nd and blue for 63rd. The three noses represented here are: 61st FS 42-75508 HV-B_ “Pistol Packin’ Mama” of Praeger Neyland; 62nd FS 42-75237 LM-S “Whack” of Dave Schilling and 63rd FS 42-75185 UN-X “Princess Pat” of Lt. Charles Reed. These colours only lasted until March 1944 when 8th Fighter Command decided on the system of coloured noses to represent the Group rather than the individual squadron, with the 56th then taking their distinctive red noses as their Group Identification.

 


How about that, even the most 'P47 crazy' guy since AH was created can learn new things about juggies. Thank you Hajo. They had squadron nose colors for 1-2 months.

The book that gives me the most information about Jugs is "Thunderbolt From Seversky to Victory" by Warren M. Bodie.  By tail number I can tell what year the Jug was built, at which factory and scads of other info as well as the most extensive library of Jug pictures.  I'm sure you already know there was a P47G that was made by Curtis.  G being used to identify Curtis manufacture. They only made 354 of them.  Curtis wasn't very good at making them. They were inefficient in the manufacture so they were canceled as manufacturers
by the US Govt. as I recall. I haven't seen a P47G in combat (pictures) anywhere during WWII.  That doesn't mean since I haven't seen one in combat that there weren't any.  P47Gs' were based on Republics' C model Jugs.  Bodie wrote two books about singular fighters.  One on the Lockheed P38 and the one on the Bolt both considered to be the best resource on those fighters.  You'll also notice that both were published by Widewing Publications.  And yes, that is our own Widewing in Aces High.
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Re: Any WWII Art Collectors out there?
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2015, 10:21:05 AM »
As promised Hajo,  here are a few of mine.  Such an expensive hobby to have gotten into!  Every print has a story.  I look more at the signatures and the story behind each of the artist's work before I buy.  BTW, how did you get into collecting the artwork? For me, it was a little shop in North Conway NH.  Just happened to be walking buy and saw the sign on the street "Alamo Aviation Art".  Bob has since moved to Montana and still is in business.  Now, I mostly keep to ebay or private sales here and there.  My last print was over 2 years ago.  Like I said...wall space in my home is at a premium.  I compete with my wife and her stuff.  I lose constantly!

My first print,  War Wolf by Robert Bailey


Duel of Eagles by Robert Taylor


First Kill by Roy Grinnell


Mustang Menace by Robert Bailey


Counting Them Home by Michael Howard


Thunder in the Sky by George Guzzi (One of my favorites because it has Fred Christensen's signature)


Dawn Patrol by Robert Taylor (This is a presentation copy.  I obtained it from the widow of DB Townsend.  Also my only WWI print)


Battle over London by Frank Wootton (This is a signed edition of members of the RAF 609 Squadron)


One of Four that Day by Roy Grinnell


The Decisive Moment by Roy Grinnell


Poles at Arnhem by Pitor Gorka (My last print.  Still waiting to be framed.  Signed by 3 Polish Paratroopers from the battle)


Sorry for the angle of the pictures.  Flash was a bit difficult and I was in a rush.  Too many to post.  Hope you enjoy these. 

Obie


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Re: Any WWII Art Collectors out there?
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2015, 01:46:16 PM »
Obie

Thanks for posting.  Absolutely gorgeous!
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Re: Any WWII Art Collectors out there?
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2015, 11:06:43 PM »
Here's what I have Hajo.  I'm in the process of finally doing my 'office/mancave' so I took the images of the web as they are not up at the moment, or they are on my son's wall and he's asleep :)

This one is on the little guy's wall.  The Shepard by Troy White, signed by Charles Baily the pilot of My Buddy


Return of the Red Gremlin, signed by Paul Tibbets and two others of his crew.  Also on my son's wall.


Touched by Lightning is going up on the man cave wall.  signed by 13 pilots of the 402nd FS, 370th FG.


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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2015, 11:12:02 PM »
Also going on the man cave wall.  Green Dragon's by Wade Meyers



Thundering home by Nick Trudgion


This one I commissioned back in the 80s.  It's the prototype Spitfire XII DP845.  I got to be good friends with the pilot of this plane in the photos this art is based off and I wanted to send it to him.  He was a Battle of Britain vet and later a service test pilot with Supermarine.  It was fun to give the original to him.  I got print number 1 and that's going on my wall too when the room is done :)



Throw in the print of the Randy Green art  some of us Airwarrior types commissioned of Earl Miller's P-39 over Anzio and I've got more than enough.  Earl got the original from us at the Indy Airwarrior Con way back when now.
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Re: Any WWII Art Collectors out there?
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2015, 02:16:49 PM »
Dan very nice! 

For all that posted thank you. 
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Re: Any WWII Art Collectors out there?
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2015, 10:56:07 PM »
 This 1st edition book still cheap....http://www.worldcat.org/title/studio-europe/oclc/706403
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