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Offline Beefcake

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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2015, 02:11:42 PM »
You don't get kill credit or points for killing fighters in a bomber but you do get perk points for killing fighters. Granted I don't really care about score, but I do wish kills at showed up for bombers rather than just being 0 all the time.
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Offline BiPoLaR

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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2015, 07:39:57 AM »
I think its hilarious. If you wouldnt waste your time trying to chase them down for an easy kill, you wouldn't get mad. Stop crying and learn to fight instead of chasing the easy stuff.
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Offline Mitchell

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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2015, 09:12:58 AM »
High bombers are by no means an easy kill, especially if they are good gunners.
Even Lancs can be difficult If you don't get enough warning time to get above them. And with 33K KI-67's B-17's and B29's I'm happy If I Kill 1 before I die.

I takes patience and planning to intercept them or even to make a 2nd or 3rd pass, many fighters want to fall out of the sky if you aren't gentle on the controls, and turning around too fast slows you down to where you are a sitting duck for gunners or even outrun by the buffs.

I will admit to bailing on bomber runs once in a while but only after I drop and only if I don't see anyone trying to come up for me. Last time I posted on 200 that I was at 24K hitting Bish city and no one came.  :cry

lately I've seen bombers turn around 2 sectors from their target and fly back home, or go off the map and then bail after I follow them there. :angry:

Why not at least try to get your bombs out before you bail????

Offline Rich46yo

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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2015, 09:43:33 AM »
I have that happen quite a bit. They are looking for that perfect angle. Generally I start climbing and turning. I took one guy so high his plane couldn't hardly climb.

They are probably waiting for you to land. Ive had that happen a few times, had a guy follow me across the map in a long range fighter just to strafe me when I land. If I'd see that now I'd just bail. Following bombers for 1/2 hour to kill them on the strip is 4 day old road kill.
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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2015, 02:06:23 PM »
I think its hilarious. If you wouldnt waste your time trying to chase them down for an easy kill, you wouldn't get mad. Stop crying and learn to fight instead of chasing the easy stuff.

Oh yes!  That's definitely what we should do.  Just leave those poor wittle bomber pilots alone, they aren't hurting anyone.  I'm sure that is what Dale meant when he designed them too........err.....wait....he gave the defensive guns, now why would he do that?  I understand that killing bomber pilots may not be everyone's favorite thing BiP, and that's fine, you get to make that choice.  How would you like it however if every time you engaged someone they just bailed on you?  Yeah, that would be a whole lot of fun...................
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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2015, 03:29:11 PM »
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If you wouldnt waste your time trying to chase them down for an easy kill,

Sometimes.  A significant number of times no way

For the new players: there is an ideal way to kill bombers where you have a greater degree of success and living.  Then there is the jump on their 6 and take your chances technique.  It is an art like countering any other plane type in this game.  Attacking bombers in a manner that you tend to live takes time to setup.  Cant easily be done even with one con around. 

If you just "happen" to be in the right vector (alt, speed, heading...) when you encounter a set of bombers lucky for you!
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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2015, 03:59:25 PM »
Don't feed the troll, it sustains him and encourages him to continue.
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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2015, 04:50:59 PM »
I like coming up dead six and giving them a chance to land hits while I am doing the same.


Offline BiPoLaR

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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2015, 11:09:05 PM »
Oh yes!  That's definitely what we should do.  Just leave those poor wittle bomber pilots alone, they aren't hurting anyone.  I'm sure that is what Dale meant when he designed them too........err.....wait....he gave the defensive guns, now why would he do that?  I understand that killing bomber pilots may not be everyone's favorite thing BiP, and that's fine, you get to make that choice.  How would you like it however if every time you engaged someone they just bailed on you?  Yeah, that would be a whole lot of fun...................
Them bailing never bothered me.
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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2015, 12:37:54 AM »
I will not bomb and bail if someone is chasing me until after I shoot him down or he gets me. However, if no one is after me or I shoot an attacker down I will often bail if I have something else to do, such as saving a vbase from a sneak attempt etc. Yesterday I shot a guy down, then bailed, then got rage PMed by the guy for disappearing from radar... Whats up with that?
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Offline NikonGuy

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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2015, 10:25:27 AM »
This is going beyond high alt bombers. 

Tonight in the MA...

Climbed to 12k to intercept a con, he see's me and bails.
Went to a flashing vBase only to have the incoming GV bail when he saw my Panther.

Its all about the sneak and they can't be bothered with the fight.

Am seeing it more and more :(

Another thing which is getting rampant is a lot won't fight in a 1 on 1 situation.  They have to out number you to attack.  I had 3 Bish in ack tonight and it was only when a fourth high pony turned up that they all decided it was safe to come out and gang me of course. At least it started a fight :P

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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2015, 06:08:22 AM »
This is going beyond high alt bombers. 

Tonight in the MA...

Climbed to 12k to intercept a con, he see's me and bails.
Went to a flashing vBase only to have the incoming GV bail when he saw my Panther.

Its all about the sneak and they can't be bothered with the fight.

Am seeing it more and more :(

Another thing which is getting rampant is a lot won't fight in a 1 on 1 situation.  They have to out number you to attack.  I had 3 Bish in ack tonight and it was only when a fourth high pony turned up that they all decided it was safe to come out and gang me of course. At least it started a fight :P

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The other day this happened over and over. Just as soon as someone upped the gv would tower. I suspect they had a shade telling them when someone was up. It was at a deacked vbase.

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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #58 on: December 29, 2015, 03:59:44 PM »
Same old same old.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ccknnuhs2rzus9k/bomb_bail_early_war_today_0146.ahf


It amazes me after all these years you just havent learned have you.....

People dont play this game the way you want it to. Im not praising the bomb-and-bail player but the very fact that people like yourself up fully expecting it to be a fair and honest fight baffles me. Then comig on here to rant expecting something out of it. I completly understand your frustation. Time wasted is time wasted but you get no sympathy from me I have learned it comes with the game.   :bhead There is no honor among most in virtual warfare especially buffs in early and midwar. If I up in any of those arenas I check the roster as im lifting. I have learned who fights and assume the rest will bail. If you come across me though I will give you the fight you upped for!  :salute
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Re: Yes another bomb and bail complaint
« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2015, 04:37:24 PM »
In my earlier years it bothered me.  I'd up, get within icon range and watch a bomber bail out.

Even had a guy text on 200 he wasn't going to let me get a kill on his bombers.   :airplane:

At the time, I was shocked.  I no longer let it bother me.  My policy on the bomb and bail issue is this.  If I can detect bombers early enough to intercept before the drop, I'll take the time to up.  If the deed is done, I usually move along now. 

If I am in bombers, I am sure as heck going to try to kill you as many times as I can so I can land damage and kills. 

The funny thing about the bomb and bail guy I am talking about is that he didn't realize I suck at killing bombers.  I try new things on different types of bombers and I still haven't figured it out yet.  The fun for me is learning from those runs.

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