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Re: Alpha Skins - Errors
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2015, 08:53:08 PM »
(EDIT IN: The Viewer is stealing the panel lines from the default Mustang and not from my files. See second upload below.)






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I was able to duplicate this on my viewer.  I was also able to create a Normal Map for the P51_N.bmp file.   However, the panel lines shown in the image above are present with or without the _N and/or _S files and do not seem to duplicate my skin.   THE ONLY THING I CAN GUESS is that the viewer is taking the rivets from my P51D.bmp main file and giving them depth that I do not intend as they are only present on that file (I have them on the Spec file but even when I delete that they still show up as depressions when they should be flush).  Is that possible?

I am also unable to fly my skin offline as I could in AH2 (it would list my skin twice if already in the game and once if not--in AH3A it is showing only the in-game skin).


I apologize for monopolizing this section for the last couple of days, but I really want to get this right.   
« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 10:16:30 PM by Vraciu »
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Re: Alpha Skins - Errors
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2015, 01:43:15 AM »
If your normal map is named "P51_N.bmp" then that may be your problem, it should be "P51D_N.bmp".

To view your skin in the alpha game the files' folder needs to be in the alpha skins folder and the folder needs to include the hangar text description file, "p51d.txt" in your case.

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Re: Alpha Skins - Errors
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2015, 06:10:50 AM »
If your normal map is named "P51_N.bmp" then that may be your problem, it should be "P51D_N.bmp".

To view your skin in the alpha game the files' folder needs to be in the alpha skins folder and the folder needs to include the hangar text description file, "p51d.txt" in your case.


I have all of that.  All named correctly.  (Sorry for the typo in the post above.)

Look at your own screenshot.   Those panel lines and rivets that are bumped are the default skin's not mine.   (Compare my panel lines under NO LIGHTING to the ones that appear under ALL LIGHTING or LIGHTING ONLY / SPECULAR ONLY.)

I have deleted everything I can find of the default map and it still imports those panel lines and rivets onto my skin from somewhere no matter what my P51D_S and _N files contain.

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Re: Alpha Skins - Errors
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2015, 10:16:40 AM »
The game/viewer will used a default normal and specular map, if they are not provided.

If you provide them, then that is what will be used.

Real easy to test.  Create a flat specular map (R128,G128,B128 for all pixels) and a flat normal map (R128,G128,B255 for all pixels) and it will produce a flat skin in the skin viewer.
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Re: Alpha Skins - Errors
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2015, 10:42:07 AM »
The game/viewer will used a default normal and specular map, if they are not provided.

If you provide them, then that is what will be used.

Real easy to test.  Create a flat specular map (R128,G128,B128 for all pixels) and a flat normal map (R128,G128,B255 for all pixels) and it will produce a flat skin in the skin viewer.

I have provided it and the viewer ignores it, opting for the default instead.  I believe Greebo has experienced the same result both with my P-51D and his Ki-43.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,375903.msg5008301.html#msg5008301
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Re: Alpha Skins - Errors
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2015, 11:31:05 AM »
There is something happening.  Hitech is going to look into it.
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« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2015, 11:52:17 AM »
There is something happening.  Hitech is going to look into it.

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Re: Alpha Skins - Errors
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2015, 01:09:18 PM »
Yes, he found a bug.
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Re: Alpha Skins - Errors
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2015, 01:23:39 PM »
And he posted a test executable for you guys to try out.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,375706.msg5008356.html#msg5008356

Just remember;  DO NOT RENAME THE TEST FILE!!  IT WILL BREAK THE NEXT PATCH IF YOU DO!
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« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2015, 01:38:27 PM »
And he posted a test executable for you guys to try out.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,375706.msg5008356.html#msg5008356

Just remember;  DO NOT RENAME THE TEST FILE!!  IT WILL BREAK THE NEXT PATCH IF YOU DO!

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