Another terrorist attack: US Soil

[Skyguns MKII]

Went to school in berno. Shootings are norm to say the least. Just shocking to see one of this degree. I send my condolences 

[bustr]

According to a local Los Angeles news report, a neighbor of San Bernardino massacre suspects Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik didn't report suspicious activity at their apartment for fear of being accused of racism.

[Brooke]

Well, I was going to respond.  But the post I was responding to got eliminated.

[NatCigg]

Well, I was going to respond.  But the post I was responding to got eliminated.

Me 2 but you forgot they planted three pipe bomb they had laying around the house.

[Brooke]

The idea that this was the result of a "heat of the moment" reaction to some argument at a Christmas party is just absurd.

Heat of the moment is not driving back home, gearing up, changing clothes, putting on a mask, having the wife do the same, having the kid at Grandma's beforehand, then driving back, and calmly trying to massacre everyone who was there.

It's as absurd as insisting on calling the shooting at Fort Hood "workplace violence".

[rpm]

If 0 is a totally liberalized Muslim (Rushdie) and 10 is the 9/11 AQ attack, I would put Fort Hood at "7.5" (the guy e-mailed with radicals and shared thoughts but came up with his act by himself). That act bought the radical cleric a Global Hawk visit. From what we know so far, this stands at around a "7". If the FBI determines the guy was affiliating and in communication with ISIS, it moves to an "8". If ISIS supplied him with money or connections for weapons, move it to a "9" on the domestic terror scale.

[Ack-Ack]

If 0 is a totally liberalized Muslim (Rushdie) and 10 is the 9/11 AQ attack, I would put Fort Hood at "7.5" (the guy e-mailed with radicals and shared thoughts but came up with his act by himself). That act bought the radical cleric a Global Hawk visit. From what we know so far, this stands at around a "7". If the FBI determines the guy was affiliating and in communication with ISIS, it moves to an "8". If ISIS supplied him with money or connections for weapons, move it to a "9" on the domestic terror scale.

Officials have already come out and said that while in Saudi Arabia, the shooter was communicating with suspected terrorists via phone and email.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html

[Triton28]

Exactly.

There's an entire game that now goes on - and the intardnet has only enabled it. Your average pundit will make an entire slew of predictions/speculations. I'm convinced he approaches it like a portfolio of start-ups.

And, like a portfolio of start-ups, 60-90% will go belly-up and disappear beneath the waves... But that GOLDEN ONE will be the prediction that comes true!!! And that one will be the one he crows from the rooftops.

And, as you point out, we do it here with even less risk than the pundit.

Leaving that aside, did I point out to you the FACT that I'm some kind of freaking GENIUS for predicting, last year I'd add, the reemergence of the European nationalist right wing?

It's true, the internet is full of those who think it was created for them to spam their thoughts to everyone else.  I don't think this particular shooting is going to expose many of those though, given that as details emerge, it's becoming less and less bold to label it terrorism. 

[Triton28]

According to a local Los Angeles news report, a neighbor of San Bernardino massacre suspects Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik didn't report suspicious activity at their apartment for fear of being accused of racism.

This is where this act of terrorism intersects with many other mass killings all around the world.  Somebody always sees or notices something that isn't normal, but they hesitate to label it what it appears to be for fear of harming or offending someone in some way.  It's almost as if these people don't trust themselves enough to make a thoughtful decision.

There's a difference between being a nosey dummy and being able to recognize when something isn't right. 

[NatCigg]

A cop told me one time "hindsight is 20/20"

[Triton28]

A cop told me one time "hindsight is 20/20"

Sure it is, but we're not talking about a nervous looking girl in Macy's you think might be shoplifting.  We're talking about suspicions that this person might be up to a whole lot of no good.  Anyone who's ever been in a position to help someone or prevent something bad from happening and did nothing will tell you it's a terrible feeling that doesn't go away.  Far better to pass the info to authorities and be wrong than to talk yourself out of it and find your hunch was right.   

[rpm]

So if I see trigger signs like former government employee with a cache of weapons and ammo wearing a beard... pretty good chance they are a terrorist, right?

[-ammo-]

So if I see trigger signs like former government employee with a cache of weapons and ammo wearing a beard... pretty good chance they are a terrorist, right?

If the person looks arab (muslim), yea that should give you a notion to watch carefully

[Triton28]

So if I see trigger signs like former government employee with a cache of weapons and ammo wearing a beard... pretty good chance they are a terrorist, right?

If you see something that doesn't seem to add up... pretty good chance you should talk to someone about it.  If you don't trust your own judgement... bounce it off someone you do trust and see what they think.  If it keeps you up at night... well, there's your answer. 

[NatCigg]

alot of people are bonafide nuts.  if i snitch on them..well im in the wrong.  oh yeah going postal is not what were after.  we need to report the intelligent quiet family man with extreme religious views ... omg thats half the country, the entire states of Utah, Alabama, and Missouri, heck its everyone in between.