Hackers are friends......or.....

[JimmyC]

What ever the ins and outs..
it's nice this game can bring friends together over a global scale..
wtg HTC for an awesome game
Nuff said.

[Latrobe]

Wait, are we really comparing hacking a video game to breaking the law in the real world? Are we saying that hacking a video game is on the same level as commiting crimes in the real world? Please tell me we aren't. Please please PLEASE tell me we're not! It's a video game! No one cares!

Is it annoying when you run into a hacker in a video game? Yes, but it's a video game. It's not like someone is breaking into your house, holds you at gun point threatening to kill you, and then proceeds to steal everything you own.

Video games =/= Real life

[FESS67]

For the record - Skyyr actually is a nice guy.

[Latrobe]

For the record - Skyyr actually is a nice guy.

Then why did he tell me to go put a bullet in my head when I killed him in game? 

[Getback]

Wait, are we really comparing hacking a video game to breaking the law in the real world? Are we saying that hacking a video game is on the same level as commiting crimes in the real world? Please tell me we aren't. Please please PLEASE tell me we're not! It's a video game! No one cares!

Is it annoying when you run into a hacker in a video game? Yes, but it's a video game. It's not like someone is breaking into your house, holds you at gun point threatening to kill you, and then proceeds to steal everything you own.

Video games =/= Real life

You are damaging property when you hack. You are ruining the livelihood of several people. When these clowns were banned the game became so much better.

[Latrobe]

You are ruining the livelihood of several people.

I don't understand this. How can hacking a game ruin people's livelihoods? unless their entire life revolves around video games in which case they need to step outside and get some fresh air. Video games aren't everything in life and if your livelihood is ruined because some hacker hacked a game for 5 minutes before being perma-banned then something is wrong there.

Hacking isn't right but to say that hackers ruin people's lives is just crazy.

[Triton28]

He's a nice guy with money aside from his personal problem with hacking other people's property seems to be your statement to the judge.

The first time maybe a lack of sound judgment as a young guy. The second time was pre meditation and choosing to violate HTC property by trespassing. He didn't notify HTC he was back on the property under another alias after being permanently banned from the property. Simple Criminal trespass in the real world. It took premeditation to commit the trespass. That was not a mistake of youth.

Hacking is theft of private property. I guess round two was sleep walking on the internet to the extreme. Oh! sorry your honor, I woke up and I had a whole new account and persona and well no one noticed I was back.

I'm glad he is a nice guy. Many nice guys who are poor and wealthy alike are in jail doing terms for many crimes. He got off with banning twice. And they are truly nice guys to their friends. And they still chose to commit the crimes that got them locked up while being nice guys to their friends. And their friends will all swear on a stack of bibles they are nice guys. And they and their friends all swear that the owner of the property is the bad guy for catching them breaking the law along with anyone who takes the property owner's side.

Blu was a nice guy as he presented himself from what I could ever see. Except he has a problem with violating other people's intellectual property.

lol... again, we can't go where we need to go because HTC (very rightly so) doesn't want specifics of such things discussed.  What you need to wrap your head around and admit is that unlike some who've come and gone via the ban hammer, you don't really know very much at all about this situation.  Yeah I know, you think you know all you need to know to type more walls of text and trump up the ambiguity surrounding the whole thing like it's a big secret because it was so full of malice... but trust me when I say, if Bluberry as a player or a person sank to the level of simple no good, dirty rotten cheating bastage, I and others wouldn't be typing what we're typing. 

I can't be any clearer Bustr.  Bluberry did what he did and owned it, HTC took care of what they needed to take care of to protect the integrity of the game, and called it a day.  Those who actually cared asked what needed asked, and what we found out wasn't what we admittedly first thought.  You can rest easy and let it go knowing everyone involved did the right thing in the end. 

[Slash27]

For the record - Skyyr actually is a nice guy.

Actually he's a lying fraud who needs the Internet so he can pretend to be a real man. I might add there are rules about hijacking threads and I suggest you read up on them. This thread is about bustr and it's in your best interest to pay the proper respect or suffer accordingly. There's a wall of text brewing and believe  me boy, you want no part of it.

[Getback]

I don't understand this. How can hacking a game ruin people's livelihoods? unless their entire life revolves around video games in which case they need to step outside and get some fresh air. Video games aren't everything in life and if your livelihood is ruined because some hacker hacked a game for 5 minutes before being perma-banned then something is wrong there.

Hacking isn't right but to say that hackers ruin people's lives is just crazy.

Hitech and Skuzzy to name two.

[Triton28]

Hitech and Skuzzy to name two.

If you had a bit more information, you'd be less worried that they got fooled and the game was harmed and more reassured that they don't play around when it comes to the integrity of the game.  They're pretty quick and ruthless and as a player, that's exactly how I want them to be.  As someone who doesn't like cheaters but also thinks Bluberry is a decent guy, I can tell you that having a little bit of info makes a world of difference. 

[BaldEagl]

Wait, are we really comparing hacking a video game to breaking the law in the real world? Are we saying that hacking a video game is on the same level as commiting crimes in the real world? Please tell me we aren't. Please please PLEASE tell me we're not! It's a video game! No one cares!

Is it annoying when you run into a hacker in a video game? Yes, but it's a video game. It's not like someone is breaking into your house, holds you at gun point threatening to kill you, and then proceeds to steal everything you own.

Video games =/= Real life

I really didn't want to get involved in this to any degree but have to comment after reading this.

Hacking is/can be a real life crime.  There's something in the real world called intellectual property rights.  Most software developers have you accept a EULA (end used license agreement) and most specifically prohibit reverse engineering (hacking).  I didn't bother to check but can be reasonably sure there's one included with AH.

Breaking the EULA can be prosecuted in the real world and has been successfully done many many times.

The most relevant occasion memorable to this situation was when John Henry bought Papyrus racing games and started prosecuting (or threatening to prosecute)  all the developers who were producing mods for those games, essentially shutting down the entire Papyrus racing games community, prior to the launch of iRacing.

I don't understand this. How can hacking a game ruin people's livelihoods? unless their entire life revolves around video games in which case they need to step outside and get some fresh air. Video games aren't everything in life and if your livelihood is ruined because some hacker hacked a game for 5 minutes before being perma-banned then something is wrong there.

Hacking isn't right but to say that hackers ruin people's lives is just crazy.

Hacking to modify existing software can allow a person to make minor changes then re-sell said software as a new product.  Not likely the case here but integrity of the game is.  If HT let everyone hack/cheat his subscriber base would dry up.  He, Skuzzy and the entire HT crew (most of who's entire life revolves around this game) would be out of work.  Just because it doesn't affect hundreds or you as a player doesn't mean it's not impacting peoples livelihoods.

[NatCigg]