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Offline bustr

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Greebo, Easycor check this please.
« on: January 16, 2016, 04:14:23 PM »
I think this is the final iteration for the offline gunnery training terrain. I've cleaned up the tree to rock transitions to gain back some FPS. Made the water run off areas look like real life transitions from higher elevation canyons and rock cuts. Reduced the percentage of tall oak forest versus lower less dense deciduous forests to gain back FPS. Still cannot get the FPS up from the CV bridges because of the rock faces on all of the shores. Once you are in the air or running a PT to intercept the CV's no problem with FPS.

I've created two cloud files. The first (gunnery.awa) has a simple 14,000ft light thin layer to get rid of that unrealistic blue sparkling clear sky. The second (gunnery2.awa) has what I think is a good cloud cover. Only problem is the abrupt light to shadow transitions that are jarring. Otherwise I've gotten rid of a lot of that cubed pillow look. Greebo your awa file helped immensely with understanding the fronts.

For everyone else,

This is an "Offline Only" terrain. I'm including a file that will unprotect objects so you can sink your own ships and destroy your own hangers. The tanks set out as targets will be destroyed by bombs and HE rounds, AP rounds will give you a nifty explosion graphic. That is a limitation to the game not a bug.

The zip file contains the following:

gunnery.res
gunnery.var
gunnery.awa
gunnery2.awa

1. - Copy (gunnery.res) to the Beta's ah3terr folder, start up the Beta and choose gunnery for your offline terrain. Then go offline, then exit out.
2. - In the game's chconfig folder will now be a new folder named Gunnery. Copy the following files into it.
gunnery.var
gunnery.awa
gunnery2.awa

3. - Go back into the offline gunnery terrain and you will see a high thin cloud layer and you will have 10x bullets for your planes and can blow up things. If you want to see what (gunnery2.awa) does, type the following into the text buffer:

.sweath gunnery2

The Gunnery Training Terrain.

1. - There are 2 tank gunnery ranges. A 4 mile with mile markers and scattered tanks, and a 4000yd with tanks at every 500yds. Also an 88mm and 17lb on each firing line. The peak to the right of A1's 4 mile range has a tank spawn and an 88mm on top of it.
2. - A wirbel spawn from A1 to the NW to shoot at the drones that will pass as close as 400ft. Also three 37mm and an 88mm up there.
3. - A1 has tank spawns to the town and down to Tank Town while P4 only has spawns to the town. Both areas have static tanks set around them to create Hogan Ally drive through ranges.
4. - V7 has the 4000yd range with a NW higher ground tank spawn over the range. It also has an 88mm spawn to the center of the main canyon for long range shooting at drones.
5. - At the end of the 4 mile gunnery range is a bombing target made of bomber and fighter hangers. There is a 15,000ft bomber air spawn along with 1250ft torpedo bomber and B25H air spawns for the 3 CV groups. There is a 7000ft fighter spawn to be on top of the drones and a 12000ft fighter spawn to bomb the CVs.
6. - There are 3 CV groups, two traveling at each other for ship to ship gunnery. The third is following a tight twisting pattern for bomber practice. There are PT spawns to intercept all three CV groups.
3. - Three 88mm spawns for long range practice at the drones as I mentioned earlier.
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Re: Greebo, Easycor check this please.
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2016, 08:04:36 PM »
Guess I should have posted this Monday so they would see it.
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Re: Greebo, Easycor check this please.
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2016, 01:38:44 AM »
<  Long weekend with the granddaughter. Checking the boards before I go to bed but come Monday afternoon I'll take a look.
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Re: Greebo, Easycor check this please.
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2016, 02:49:14 AM »
Thanks Bustr, I'll check it out today.

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Re: Greebo, Easycor check this please.
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2016, 01:11:31 PM »
Bustr, I spent an hour or so on your gunnery terrain trying the various spawns for tanks, AA and aircraft. The whole thing is really well thought out and I think it will be popular with players when they find out about it.

I have one suggestion which is to change one of the fleets to a different country. Practising your lead aiming AA-free is useful but having the fleet opening up on you is a good indicator for dropping distances when online.

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Re: Greebo, Easycor check this please.
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2016, 01:26:50 PM »
How would you suggest making that change with the least amount of adding anything more to make the new player have to remember anything? And for the new player should I just keep the thin cloud layer for the pretty visual?  Once I get this finalized, I need to see if 7zip or some other freeware will package the files so that the new player just downloads it, runs it, and all the files, res, awa, and var are placed in the correct folders.

I'm going to hate myself for giving everyone a way to practice with the wirbel, 8 inch battery, and the 88. This was the only way I could come up with to solve that issue for my own practice, and keep the format military like and a semi feel of being trained for the MA.

Thank you for looking at it.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2016, 02:37:24 PM »
Is there some way instructions could be added to the terrain as a message of the day? The enemy CV should be easy to spot on the map with its differently coloured icon.

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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2016, 03:11:33 PM »
I can lay down a port, even a small airfield with it, make it another country, and set the patrol path to get close to the other groups. MOTD popup.. :huh...what are the instructions to setup one of those text files to popup when you first get in the tower?

I'm trying to keep this lean for the new player to not have to do anything but spawn and piu, piu, piu to learn these guns. So did you spend much time in a wirbel up on that meza...... :O
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2016, 03:41:53 PM »
Sorry, I don't know how or if it is even possible to put a MOTD in a terrain, was just thinking out loud. I'd imagine most players that would need the instructions wouldn't know how to bring the MOTD up again anyway, so it was not good idea really. Perhaps you could make an illustrated guide they can print out showing pictures of the gunnery ranges and spawn arrangement?

I always found the cloud layer useful online as it is easier shoot a roper above me if I have some guide as to my plane's orientation to the ground. For your terrain I guess a fighter who was bnzing the drones might get some advantage when setting up his next run. Otherwise it is just eye candy, but what is wrong with that?

I use manned AA guns sometimes when a field is being vulched but I've never tried a Wirbelwind online. So I spent 15 minutes getting the lead worked out until I could at least hit every plane as it came past. The offline drones look pretty slow though, so I imagine I'd have to lead most planes a bit more online.

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2016, 07:46:36 PM »
Offline drones are flying at 65mph ring lead speeds. Or the same speeds AAF gunnery training took place with AT6 and 70Mil ring and dot. So online lead with the con outside of the gunsight hood.

Your country's Barr&Stroud MKII standard gunsight had a 100mph ring. The AAF standard ring was 65mph(70Mil until) until 1944. As a stop gap because the N9 was delayed, in July 43, the NAVY MK8 was fitted in P47s from the factory using N9 reticle. So at the staging pools in England for AAF fighters, all of the US N3 gunsights were pulled and replaced with MKII for the 100mph ring(100Mil and dot). Take a close look at AAF fighter pictures before June 44. The AAF used British gunsights to tame the hun. Look real close at a bunch of the 56th fighter P47 early on.
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