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Offline GScholz

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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #375 on: May 03, 2016, 06:31:19 AM »
lol blogspot.com ? What blog did you pull that image from?
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #376 on: May 04, 2016, 12:11:49 AM »
Quote from: GScholz on May 03, 2016, 06:31:19 AM
lol blogspot.com ? What blog did you pull that image from?

It's from the Wikileaks files. You having trouble keeping up?
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #377 on: May 04, 2016, 03:37:53 AM »
If you really want something really bad, you do not need to decrypt anything. a big bag of money, or recent  pictures of your family life along with a colorful threat will get you most things.


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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #378 on: May 04, 2016, 07:22:29 AM »
Quote from: Vulcan on May 04, 2016, 12:11:49 AM
It's from the Wikileaks files. You having trouble keeping up?

Looks like something a 12 year old would make in photoshop. The NSA guys must be laughing their nuts off that people actually believe things like this.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #379 on: May 04, 2016, 09:18:29 AM »
Line drawings.. that's fishy. CAD is done on computer.  :O
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #380 on: May 04, 2016, 03:32:52 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on May 04, 2016, 07:22:29 AM
Looks like something a 12 year old would make in photoshop. The NSA guys must be laughing their nuts off that people actually believe things like this.

Yeah that's why they're after Assange and Manning is locked up. Still in denial there GS ;) good on you. At least it makes it clear you will not listen to reason nor evidence.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #381 on: May 04, 2016, 04:58:36 PM »
Heh, only a conspiracy nut would call anything you've posed "evidence". ;)
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #382 on: May 05, 2016, 01:40:56 AM »
Quote from: GScholz on May 04, 2016, 04:58:36 PM
Heh, only a conspiracy nut would call anything you've posed "evidence". ;)

You do know that the wikileaks stuff has been scoured and checked and confirmed as real. I cannot believe you are trying to write off wikileaks as non-evidence conspiracy stuff when one man rots in jail for it and another is sought by the US government for 'treason' (I always find that amusing as he is not a US citizen). I fell sorry for you gs... the level of denial you go into around the f35 is stunning.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #383 on: May 05, 2016, 01:48:36 AM »
Quote from: Vulcan on May 05, 2016, 01:40:56 AM
the level of denial you go into around the f35 is stunning.

You appear far less objective than GScholz to be honest.

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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #384 on: May 05, 2016, 01:59:34 PM »
Quote from: Vulcan on May 05, 2016, 01:40:56 AM
You do know that the wikileaks stuff has been scoured and checked and confirmed as real.

What "stuff" exactly, and confirmed by whom exactly? Be specific!

So far all the verifiable evidence and statements from people who actually has firsthand knowledge of the F-35 all point to it being a great aircraft (or will be when it's done). Show me some actual verifiable evidence to the contrary and I'll change my mind. I'll turn on a flipping dime if the evidence supports it. But don't post more hand drawings of God knows what from some conspiracy blog site.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #385 on: May 05, 2016, 03:04:33 PM »
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #386 on: May 05, 2016, 03:59:22 PM »
Quote from: nrshida on May 05, 2016, 01:48:36 AM
You appear far less objective than GScholz to be honest.

The wikileaks files include stuff from Snowden and Manning. Manning is in jail ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Manning ). Snowden is wanted by the USA for espionage ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden ) and is currently in hiding in Russia.

Julian Assange (who ran wikileaks) is currently wanted by the US and living under asylum at the Ecuadorian embassy in London ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange ).

The format of the NSA Slides is quite common, if you look at any of them they look the same.

In NZ we had great interest in them as we are part of the 5 Eyes/Echelon program.

Nobody (except GS) has ever disputed the validity of the wikileaks NSA files.

Snowdens leaks in particular created a massive upheaval in the IT industry around encryption of data after it revealed what the NSA was doing across datacenters such as googles.

ALL the NSA slides bare the same format.

Denial of these slides as 'conspiracy theory' reveals someone who has no clue / is very ignorant on the subject.

I would suggest gs read up on snowden and manning more. But I doubt he will.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #387 on: May 05, 2016, 04:16:51 PM »
So "scoured and checked and confirmed as real" has now become "nobody ever disputed the validity of". Right... The NSA guys are still laughing. Manning and Snowden would be charged of espionage crimes regardless of whether the intel they stole was real or a honeypot.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #388 on: May 05, 2016, 04:38:12 PM »
Quote from: Vulcan on May 05, 2016, 03:59:22 PM
The wikileaks files...

None of that is relevant to my point Vulcan.

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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #389 on: May 06, 2016, 05:52:53 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on May 05, 2016, 04:16:51 PM
So "scoured and checked and confirmed as real" has now become "nobody ever disputed the validity of". Right...

Just so you understand fully, those two statements are not mutually exclusive.
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