First Time at a Towered Airport

[SFRT - Frenchy]

You flew 36 hours in 4 flight!? 

[Golfer]

I don't think it went as bad as you feel it did.  Good job and keep on smiling.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

You flew 36 hours in 4 flight!? 

It's your total flight time, what an idiot I am!    Tells you I haven't maintained a log book in a while.

Don't feel bad friend. The first few 10s of hours I was terrorized at the idea of talking to ATC. Now I freaking argue with them to get what I need. Including 'nope, I don't think so'. They are just people like the rest of us not robots. You did the right thing, which is debriefing yourself to improve. 

[Zoney]

I think you must mean Delta. Northwest was absorbed into Delta in 2008.

Quite true.  I'm sure he calls it Delta, but it will always be Northwest to me.  He loves flying to China, that's the first thing he bids on every month.

[BoilerDown]

Busher, I appreciate the input. However, making the big bucks isn't much of a concern at this point. I'm sure in due time it will be, but I prefer being paid; no matter how little the pay, to do something I want to do. I'd much rather struggle for 10 years doing what I want to do than working for the family insurance company. And trust me, the company would probably pay me more than an airline ever will.

Unfortunately this is the reason why pilots (and teachers) will never get paid.  Too many joining the profession because they love it at any price.  If people are willing to work at cost, why would the industry pay them more than that?  So just be aware, if you don't make yourself better than 90-95% of the pilots you come up with, you'll never get paid.  And at some point many of them will have military training, where they've already proven themselves to be in the top few percentages.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Money money money .... how much money do you really need?! I fly airplanes, I make $80K and I work  1/4 of the year. Working being playing video game waiting for a call.

Tell me again how your on airline 'big bucks' is working for you? All my homiez flying airlines ... none of them talk about the joy of flying, all they talk about is numbers ... long call, short call, seniority, bids, minimum return hours.sure in their 40s they finally cracked 100K after being thurloaded 10 times and sacrificed their familly time for years. For what? The ego boost of 'I fly a big plane' ... 15,000 hours of 'experience' with 6 of actually handflying the thing. Wow ... now that was an airline rant 😄

[FTJR]

Money money money .... how much money do you really need?! I fly airplanes, I make $80K and I work  1/4 of the year. Working being playing video game waiting for a call.

Tell me again how your on airline 'big bucks' is working for you? All my homiez flying airlines ... none of them talk about the joy of flying, all they talk about is numbers ... long call, short call, seniority, bids, minimum return hours.sure in their 40s they finally cracked 100K after being thurloaded 10 times and sacrificed their familly time for years. For what? The ego boost of 'I fly a big plane' ... 15,000 hours of 'experience' with 6 of actually handflying the thing. Wow ... now that was an airline rant 😄

Very nice rant, and all very true. 

[flight17]

It's your total flight time, what an idiot I am!    Tells you I haven't maintained a log book in a while.

Don't feel bad, someone is not teaching him or filling out his logbook correctly.

To the OP, the "Total duration of flight" column is not a cumulative column, that is what the bottom of the page is for with "totals this page", "amount forwarded" and "totals to date". It is just for the total time of each entry.

[flight17]

My training was the opposite. I started at a Class Delta so towered airports were easy for me. It was non-towered that I didn't care for and even to this day, if I can fly into a Towered over a non-controlled with everything else being equal, I take the towered.

[cpxxx]

Total opposite, learned to fly at an international airport, Dublin airport Ireland if you must know. My first solo was number 3 to a 737 and a 747 complete with with 'funny'  comments from the 747  Captain about his first solo.  Add that to ATC's worry that the next inbound was bearing down on me so could I stay at 500 feet and 'expedite'.  No pressure then.
Later when I ended up flying into to Memphis TN, I was under no pressure.. Just can't cope with  no tower airfields. I just need directionsm.

[Serenity]

Total opposite, learned to fly at an international airport, Dublin airport Ireland if you must know. My first solo was number 3 to a 737 and a 747 complete with with 'funny'  comments from the 747  Captain about his first solo.  Add that to ATC's worry that the next inbound was bearing down on me so could I stay at 500 feet and 'expedite'.  No pressure then.
Later when I ended up flying into to Memphis TN, I was under no pressure.. Just can't cope with  no tower airfields. I just need directionsm.

Right there with ya! STRONGLY prefer a towered airport, so I don't have to be quite so worried about running over a little cessna who isn't talking...

[NGXPilot]

Don't feel bad, someone is not teaching him or filling out his logbook correctly.

To the OP, the "Total duration of flight" column is not a cumulative column, that is what the bottom of the page is for with "totals this page", "amount forwarded" and "totals to date". It is just for the total time of each entry.

Yes, I had thought this too.

I had asked my instructor concerning the matter the 2nd time he logged a flight in there. He whipped out the instructor's manual for the training kits we use and he was doing exactly what the manual told him to do logbook wise.

[NGXPilot]

I've since visited KFWA again, and with what I'd like to say were relatively little errors to my first time. I recall really only one little thing, I left my phone in the hangar at C62, So I didn't get to take any pictures once we were parked at the GA ramp. Doh. It was much easier the second time, I was more relaxed and exchanges with ATC felt more natural. Not much to write home about, really. Still interesting though.

[flight17]

Yes, I had thought this too.

I had asked my instructor concerning the matter the 2nd time he logged a flight in there. He whipped out the instructor's manual for the training kits we use and he was doing exactly what the manual told him to do logbook wise.

can you post a picture of the full logbook page? I'm curious to see how exactly it's laid out.

I have never heard of anyone having it done that way and even asked some of my colleagues and they sort of laughed at the idea of it being logged that way.

[Peanut1]

Great job. If you know you made mistakes you will achieve being a great pilot!