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Offline FX1

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Re: AK fanbois on suicide watch
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2016, 10:13:51 PM »
I have many people out to the ranch and shoot most weekends. Out of all the rifles that have come threw the gates ar's don't have the best % of running strong. Either they will have a jam from magazines or broken bolts ect. Then if you give them a couple days in a open air vechile with Texas dust this will cause havoc. Great rifle but for what I do their is no need to shoot nickles at 100 yards. If you can hit a pie plate at 200 then your gtg. So I have a krink if I take a rifle for a weekend. It's also fun to shoot without the supresser. Makes you understand the power in such a small rifle.

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Re: AK fanbois on suicide watch
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2016, 04:28:05 PM »
I'd bet a large majority of those ARs at your ranch aren't properly lubed/greased.  It's so common that the huge majority of courses I've taken and taught, that doing a function check at the start of day 1 shows that nearly every AR/AK user hasn't done this for some reason.  Clean is one thing, greased/lubed is another.  And, if you run either of those rifles hard, as in training hard, like 1500 round days, with some 2 to 300 round evolutions in those days, the major cause for failures is lack of properly lubing and greasing the rifle in proper places.  I'm not saying there aren't other causes for stoppages and failures, just that there is a systemic problem in the semi auto rifle shooting community to NOT do this right for some reason.

Proper method IMO -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzVr7JXVxH4

Also, in areas like you describe in Texas, and in the mid east as well, there are products you can use specific for that kind of dust to make rifles more resistant to problems, but it's still IMO one of the hardest environments to keep a rifle functioning well, fine dust that's airborne a lot due to wind.

I have a 545 Krink rifle as well - it's not a true Krinkov, but a kit put on a full sized rifle, so close enough.  We rented it on our range for years back in the early 2000s.  Loud, big flash.  Never had a suppressor on it though.  I've never owned a Valmet, but i've shot the M76 in 556, excellent rifle, reminded me a lot of my tanker Galil.  Love to grab a heavy barrel Valmet M78 too if it was possible.  A few pop up for sale up here from time to time, missed this one last year when it went for 4500$.

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Re: AK fanbois on suicide watch
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2016, 05:15:31 PM »
Your correct to assume most people don't properly store their rifles. The first question I ask was when was the last time you shot your rifle and have you cleaned the barrel sense then. If the answer was years ago or I just cleaned the barrel before coming out then the next stop is the range. 300 blk has made the platform a great option but I am surprised you don't see as many 6.8. I understand why people buy a 300 to shoot suppressed but what people don't understand is that subsonic ammo killing power is basically 0 after 50-70 yards. A 6.8 for me would be the wtg. My subsonic gun is a carbine 45 and it works really well on smaller pigs and it's quiet without a suppressor. 

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Re: AK fanbois on suicide watch
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2016, 09:51:37 PM »
I'd bet a large majority of those ARs at your ranch aren't properly lubed/greased.  It's so common that the huge majority of courses I've taken and taught, that doing a function check at the start of day 1 shows that nearly every AR/AK user hasn't done this for some reason.

This. I have a decent kit that I bring with me to a big shooting/hog hunting weekend at a buddy's ranch which would handle most of the common failures in several popular platforms that show up.  This year I "repaired" 8 or so rifles following failure to fire with CLP. Another guy with a Remington 1100 said it wasn't cycling which in my experience is a pretty short list of suspect causes.  One cycle of the action and you could feel how dry this thing was. I showed him where and how to lube it and it ran like a champ the rest of the weekend.

No O-Rings, gas rings, bolts, pins, snap rings or set screws. Just a half a can of CLP fixed everything we came up against this and last year. I did replace one guys firing pin retainer pin because they split the ends "because it's a cotter pin" he said. Sigh.  He said he bought it like that but also justified the way it was...yah huh.

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Re: AK fanbois on suicide watch
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2016, 10:32:25 AM »
This weekend we have two guys headed to the ranch and both just got their new AR IR set ups. Should be interesting to see what arsenal they bring. Might need to break out the 1938 Steyr. 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By0zKKCWMUdBd0k2bDNGSGFObG8/view?usp=sharing

Its my trump card for any black rifle. These days i am into wooden stocks and or fore grips. Which a most ak meets that requirement.