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Offline DmonSlyr

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2016, 10:35:12 AM »
I love shooting down bombers just like the rest of you, but if that's all I got to shoot at once in a 45 minute time span, that's just not fun. And the #s tell me it's not that exciting for them either.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2016, 10:36:25 AM »
I flew buffs the first month of this year because I didn't have a JS. Flew at 15k bombed base after base took a nap on the way home. So exciting.

I dare you to do that against the Knights, while I am flying.  I can promise to relieve your boring ride home by eliminating it.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2016, 10:43:51 AM »
I dare you to do that against the Knights, while I am flying.  I can promise to relieve your boring ride home by eliminating it.

At 15K, he would be far too low for you to spot him  :old:
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2016, 11:38:52 AM »
Some call the boredom of climbing high... exciting.

I prefer to go up against another person or persons and fight, win or lose. No boredom.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2016, 11:42:12 AM »
At 15K, he would be far too low for you to spot him  :old:


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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2016, 11:43:38 AM »
Some call the boredom of climbing high... exciting.


Some of the best fights I ever had were up there. Most notably against well escorted high altitude bomber raids. It's another world up there, no quick jerking on your stick... thinking, planning, keeping a very sharp eye on your E state... trying to find a gap in the coverage, or engaging the escorts to create one for your teammates..

that were good times  :old:

I really miss that a lot  :(
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2016, 11:55:45 AM »

Some of the best fights I ever had were up there. Most notably against well escorted high altitude bomber raids. It's another world up there, no quick jerking on your stick... thinking, planning, keeping a very sharp eye on your E state... trying to find a gap in the coverage, or engaging the escorts to create one for your teammates..

that were good times  :old:

Now do all that at low altitude and add the trees, hills, and ground. Possible ack and flack along with GVs shooting at you and planes dropping in on you. Then more enemy showing up much quicker. Now you have what it is to be in a fight that takes quick thinking and reflexes, E management, head on a swivel sweaty hands excitement.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2016, 12:04:55 PM »
Now do all that at low altitude and add the trees, hills, and ground. Possible ack and flack along with GVs shooting at you and planes dropping in on you. Then more enemy showing up much quicker. Now you have what it is to be in a fight that takes quick thinking and reflexes, E management, head on a swivel sweaty hands excitement.

That sounds like fun!


Some of the best fights I ever had were up there. Most notably against well escorted high altitude bomber raids. It's another world up there, no quick jerking on your stick... thinking, planning, keeping a very sharp eye on your E state... trying to find a gap in the coverage, or engaging the escorts to create one for your teammates..

that were good times  :old:

I really miss that a lot  :(

That sounds like fun!

^See that^  ?

2 ways to have fun, of the 100's of ways to have fun.

The difference is presentation.

Lamenting the fact that everyone does not want to play as you do Violator is ridiculous.  We get it, we can't help but get it because almost every day you find a way to climb up on your soapbox and TELL those of us who don't play your way that what we are doing isn't fun and if you aren't furballing then you are not a valuable member of the game and as you said we should just play offline.  You don't see a problem with that attitude?
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2016, 12:13:31 PM »
i just knew that the big maps were as good as gone after we voted. but nope, the hiders outnumbered the fighters.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2016, 12:21:33 PM »
That sounds like fun!

That sounds like fun!

^See that^  ?

2 ways to have fun, of the 100's of ways to have fun.

The difference is presentation.

Lamenting the fact that everyone does not want to play as you do Violator is ridiculous.  We get it, we can't help but get it because almost every day you find a way to climb up on your soapbox and TELL those of us who don't play your way that what we are doing isn't fun and if you aren't furballing then you are not a valuable member of the game and as you said we should just play offline.  You don't see a problem with that attitude?

And lusche is having so much fun in the game that he cancelled his subscription.

Willy said it right when he said that today's gamers want instant action. That why wot and those games draw crowds. Due to those games being crap is why they have big turn overs in players.

Match a good game like this one with more instant action  and the numbers will climb and maintain.  Then some of those players may try other things like high altitude attacks and defenses.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2016, 12:26:41 PM »
And lusche is having so much fun in the game that he cancelled his subscription.

Willy said it right when he said that today's gamers want instant action. That why wot and those games draw crowds. Due to those games being crap is why they have big turn overs in players.

Match a good game like this one with more instant action  and the numbers will climb and maintain.  Then some of those players may try other things like high altitude attacks and defenses.

15$ a month subscriptions.  :old:

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2016, 12:36:12 PM »
And lusche is having so much fun in the game that he cancelled his subscription.

Willy said it right when he said that today's gamers want instant action. That why wot and those games draw crowds. Due to those games being crap is why they have big turn overs in players.

Match a good game like this one with more instant action  and the numbers will climb and maintain.  Then some of those players may try other things like high altitude attacks and defenses.

I live in fear of the day HT comes out with an arena that's set up like WT with 15-30 minute rounds to accomplish some specific goal with a reward at the end of it.  It will be hugely popular, and the MA will become a ghost town.

IMO this game had its heyday at a time when there wasn't anything remotely comparable in terms of flight and gunnery mechanics that had instant action, so people tolerated the open world MA because of the gameplay.  When a few companies came out with a F2P option that had different performance for different aircraft and rounds based gameplay, there was a viable option and people didn't need to tolerate the open world sandbox to get their fix.

The people who are still here either like the mechanics of the game enough to tolerate the parts of MA gameplay they don't like, or like the open world sandbox style play they can't get anywhere else other than WBs.

If I wanted to play Counterstrike in airplanes, I wouldn't be here.  Unfortunately an awful lot of people seem to want to play Counterstrike in airplanes, and they are elsewhere.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2016, 12:50:46 PM »
That sounds like fun!

That sounds like fun!

^See that^  ?

2 ways to have fun, of the 100's of ways to have fun.

The difference is presentation.

Lamenting the fact that everyone does not want to play as you do Violator is ridiculous.  We get it, we can't help but get it because almost every day you find a way to climb up on your soapbox and TELL those of us who don't play your way that what we are doing isn't fun and if you aren't furballing then you are not a valuable member of the game and as you said we should just play offline.  You don't see a problem with that attitude?

All I said was that maps during off hours should provide a funnel for fights to happen. Even in small maps there is still the ability to climb to 30k and attack undefended bases. Smaller maps help newer members of the game find fights. If you have a large map with scattered players and then most of them are in high bombers, most people don't have the time, attention spans, the know how's, the wants, to go up at a sector with a tiny dar bar and find the red guy! If the red guy is in a 25k 190D, then your pretty much SOL on having any sort of fun because the guy isn't even going to attack you.

If you joined the arena and it was easy to spot the action and the fight, the majoirty of the people would be in that area, thus using their time to dog fight and be apart of the action. The bombers could still have their fun and be apart of the action or not. The fights would create excitement and meaning. This would build up the player base instead of it declining because of a lack of action.

You don't even have to modify the MA at all. Better base placement and smaller maps to direct the action. Thats all it needs.
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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2016, 12:52:12 PM »
Climbing skillset alt+x and hope something good is on TV.

The interesting part happens when some other guy has done the same thing and doesn't run when he sees you.

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Re: Please decommsion the big maps.
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2016, 01:08:44 PM »
So last Tuesday night the 35k massed B17 mission to the knights city and HQ and the massed interceptor battle didn't happen...... :O

There has been a recent trend of those missions on Tuesday nights around 7:30-8:00pm US pacific time for some months. Then Tuesday night is POTW squad night and we do put up a mess of interceptors to entertain the squads who want to test their bomber skills against knight land's city and HQ.
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