Bailer Identification

[Randy1]

Climbed to 30K and get a bomber working the city.  He or she bailed before a shot could be fired.  If they bail, post a System note on who they are.

I see both good and evil on this wish.

Maybe a kill could be proxied on a bail over 25,000.

BTW How high could you bail in WW2 and have a 100% survival rate given everything went as it should?

[Zoney]

There is no altitude where you could survive bailing from a plane 100% of the time.  Including now.

-1 on the wish.  A policy of griefing players is not my preference.

[Wiley]

It would take some of the sting if they just expanded proxies out to 10,000 yards or so.  Count them as a kill, award perks.  Only thing we're missing out on then is the pleasure of shooting them down.

I personally couldn't care less who the bailer is but you can look at film if you want to know.

Wiley.

[BuckShot]

Here a solution to the bailers: No damage to the bomber from a weapon, no points for anything you destroyed if you bail, rip parts off in a dive, or crash.

[Lusche]

Here a solution to the bailers: No damage to the bomber from a weapon, no points for anything you destroyed if you bail, rip parts off in a dive, or crash.

If bomb'n'bailers would care about points, they wouldn't bomb and bail at all.

[bustr]

Climbing to 25-35k to bomb strats is a good indication the person is not there to fight especially if they are alone. I think it was Dolby who insists that before the strat were dispersed this last time around. Bombers were easier to get at since the combined strat spent a good deal of time at the front before being moved to the middle of the country.

Punishing players for not fighting by shaming them will only cost Hitech subscriptions. I doubt most players these days care about their score like they did pre 2009. On many maps now as the fortunes of war change rapidly due to no defenders after peak time, and the dispersed strat are overtaken quickly allowing easy access to them with even GV. A new mechanism and rational for strat movement or placement of strat is probably needed.

Maybe a more dynamic strat that follows the fortunes of the country with some number of configurations as the fronts and numbers of fields grow or shrink.

[Beefcake]

The thing that amazes me is bombers at 25-30k usually have a decent advantage over most fighters and stand a good chance of shooting them down. Well that is vs your average pilot. I remember I was at 30k in some B29s drooling as a NIKI tried to climb up and shoot me down, sadly he ran out of fuel about 2k from me so I didn't get to shoot him down.

I know I'm an odd bomber fart, but I have to be honest, most pilots aren't that skilled at attacking bombers and I'm amazed these guys bail when they would stand a good chance if they just stuck in their guns.

[bustr]

All that matters is the individual player's perception. So with the on going stream of stories showing players in bombers are now bailing to avoid fighting when they logically have the advantage after that amount of investment in getting over the strat. They need something new to change their perception.

The human mistake in all of this is by yourself and the OP projection your perceptions of the game on those bailing players. Like in the OP's situation causes him to become angry at them because his perception is they have many advantages to win the encounter with. And your consternation because your perception sees the same advantage for those bailing bomber pilots.

Many players who fly bombers expect it to be a one way mission the moment a fighter shows up. So at 30k they see the fighter having all of the advantages to the point it is worth bailing versus being slaughtered. Then in the long run do you want Hitech to be able to keep up subscriptions or what alternative do you and the OP have to offer? Impose things on customers to force them to live up to yours and the OP's perceptions?

And, if for the OP this is happening during late night off peak time, his frustration is understandable. But forcing players to act in the manner the OP wants will be a global solution during all 24 hours. During prime time finding bombers to kill is not a problem and most of the time they want to fight when the strat is their target. Still there are those who don't, which the unintended consequence to start will probably be fewer players investing time in bomber runs.

So maybe it is time for a new strat concept that will entice them into easier to reach locations for all concerned.

[Zimme83]

Bailing after bombing is mostly to get rid of the long ride back home (And use the time to do other stuff, like fighting)


My suggestion is to move strats back to the city and Place the city in a central location surrounded by airfields so that noe raids are made impossible and gives the defenders enough warning to up and intercept incoming bombers.

[Randall172]

Perk all planes that up ords, simple if you land after you drop ords, you get your perks back.

[bustr]

You will bleed Hitech paying customers.

[Beefcake]

Perk all planes that up ords, simple if you land after you drop ords, you get your perks back.

Besides the fact that no new or returning player would be able to fly a bomber since they wouldn't have perks, that would never work. Secondly players that fly bombers and get shot down alot would constantly be losing perks.

[Chalenge]

When an enemy climbs to 30k+ and bails before getting to the target it is a victory for the defending pilot climbing up to stop them. If he hits the target and then bails then his mission is done and it is his victory. I do not think you should be awarded a kill for 'scaring' someone that acts like this. It's just part of the territory of high alt fighting against armchair pilots.

You know, there are people that do the same thing at ground level.

[Meatwad]

Make ack lethal 5-10K out from strats. Have about 100 88's instead of what is there now. Make it chore to bomb it

[Oldman731]

Bailing after bombing is mostly to get rid of the long ride back home (And use the time to do other stuff, like fighting)

I don't fly bombers, but certainly I'll augur if I think I should up from a different field because there's an enemy wave coming into another field - or even from the same field, if I'm low on fuel and my opponents are fresh out of their base.  I can't see any sense in penalizing the bomber people for doing the same thing.

- oldman