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Offline caldera

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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2016, 12:23:41 PM »
USCH, the black color of the body is just the gelcoat.  My intended paint scheme will include white, blue, and silver.

caldera, the engine will be around 412 cubic inches.  I am going for volumetric efficiency, rather that just brute force.  Although, it should be brutal when it is done. :)

Lusche, I have heard of such things, but they do not let you play with the engine stuff much on those models, at least over here.

Pipz, I have been thinking about it for over 45 years. :D  It was to start out as a kit, but then it went in a different direction.  The body is cast from an original CSX car.  The frame was from a kit, but then I got a new frame and got rid of the original frame.  Then I decided there were things I did not like about that frame so I am doing a finite element analysis of it to see what I can do about its weaknesses.

Most everything I want to do is going to have to be fabricated by me, as it pertains to the body/frame.  There are some aftermarket pieces I might use for the front suspension when I replace it.

What is the engine your 412 is based off of?  Carb or FI?  N/A or power adder? 
Wish I had the $ for a project car and a garage to work on it, but still saving up for a second pair of pants.  :(
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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2016, 01:24:50 PM »
We use Inventor product Design Suite. It includes Autocad Mechanical, Fusion, and several other packages. While we can do our own finite testing, most of ours requires an engineering stamp so we have that done outside when required.

Parts are then pulled as dxf and ported to our Trumpf 5040 laser or our CNC machine.

For suspension components on a machine that will be carrying bodies, I would run 100% UT on the welds. Failure could cause loss of life and limb.

It is required of us when we make anything that may spin fast, fly, or any other high velocity craft/part.
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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2016, 01:34:50 PM »
What is the engine your 412 is based off of?  Carb or FI?  N/A or power adder? 
Wish I had the $ for a project car and a garage to work on it, but still saving up for a second pair of pants.  :(

It is based on a Dart big bore Windsor block.  EFI.  No power adders.

We use Inventor product Design Suite. It includes Autocad Mechanical, Fusion, and several other packages. While we can do our own finite testing, most of ours requires an engineering stamp so we have that done outside when required.

Parts are then pulled as dxf and ported to our Trumpf 5040 laser or our CNC machine.

For suspension components on a machine that will be carrying bodies, I would run 100% UT on the welds. Failure could cause loss of life and limb.

It is required of us when we make anything that may spin fast, fly, or any other high velocity craft/part.

I left a lot of details out about everything that will be done, such as heat treating the parts, once they are ground.  There is a lot of testing to be done after they come out of the heat treatment.

I am not going to sacrifice my, or my families, personal safety for anything.
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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2016, 01:58:06 PM »
Are you building your own race car?   :x are there specs for a roll cage in the class you want to run?

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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2016, 02:52:27 PM »
Are you building your own race car?   :x are there specs for a roll cage in the class you want to run?

It will be street legal.  The only race I am running in will be the Big Bend race which is held annually.

Yes, it will have a functional roll bar, not a cage.
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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2016, 02:54:09 PM »
It is based on a Dart big bore Windsor block.  EFI.  No power adders.

I left a lot of details out about everything that will be done, such as heat treating the parts, once they are ground.  There is a lot of testing to be done after they come out of the heat treatment.

I am not going to sacrifice my, or my families, personal safety for anything.

Nice! I've been out of the hot rodding loop for a while.  Didn't even know Dart made Windsor blocks.  Dart heads too?  Big cam and compression I hope. 

Can I borrow 20 grand to build my V-8 Miata?  We can do a loan like a reverse mortgage.  You get the car when I die. :D
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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2016, 06:43:58 PM »
Next time im thru dfw gotta give you a ride in my truck. 950hp to the ground and 2050 torque. Great work on the suspension.

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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2016, 06:35:23 AM »
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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2016, 09:48:26 AM »

Awesome Roy!

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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2016, 05:14:58 PM »
The "original" cobra used a salisbury independent rear suspension.......surely not optimized for the car like your work of art.

I used to work on a generation 1 cobra owned by my neighbor across the street.........basically learned all the good stuff about race cars from him as a kid.

Nice choice on the diff.  should be good to 1000hp.

I usually use R200 and R230 diffs. and corvette uprights front and rear but they have HP limitations below what you chose.
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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2016, 05:23:33 PM »
In Germany, we do have 'car dealers'. You are able to buy a fully assembled car there. You can enter it and simply drive away!  :old:
lmao....it's more of a hobby building your own car. Like having free time on your hands. And also it is educating to learn from your own mistakes by building anything. You gain knowledge and you feel proud when the project is finished.

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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2016, 07:37:57 PM »
Skuzzy, are you leaving the body in Black?

If so, consider Dave MacDonald's colors, or the basic black used by the Shelby team cars in 1963... Less the numbers, of course. Nothing quite like a black Cobra.







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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2016, 06:23:48 AM »
The "original" cobra used a salisbury independent rear suspension.......surely not optimized for the car like your work of art.

I used to work on a generation 1 cobra owned by my neighbor across the street.........basically learned all the good stuff about race cars from him as a kid.

Nice choice on the diff.  should be good to 1000hp.

I usually use R200 and R230 diffs. and corvette uprights front and rear but they have HP limitations below what you chose.

The pumpkin was a no-brainer.  Millions of them in wrecking yards make them cheap.  They are strong enough to handle anything you can toss at them in a car weighing less than 2,000 pounds.  Rebuilding it with 3:55 gears and an Eaton TruTrac.

I am exploring using the Corvette C6 front spindles/uprights with custom control arms.


Widewing, I am thinking of going perl white, with blue metallic stripes flanked with silver pin stripes.  Or I may go red with silver stripes and white pins.  Too many black Cobras around here.  It is an awesome color for the Cobra, but I want mine to be easily recognizable.  I am not concerned with making mine look like a vintage Cobra.

That said, I may add gumballs.
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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2016, 09:52:00 AM »
That said, I may add gumballs.

What number would you be?

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Re: One step closer...
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2016, 10:36:10 AM »
45 or 60.
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