19th Sentai

[lyric1]

Well if it is a gloss paint finish then the same mirror effect is going on as I stated before with the sun light.

[oboe]

Are you guys pretty sure that gloss or semi-gloss paint would've been used?   I have no particular source for this, but I have always assumed camo-type colors - the greens, browns, olive drabs, greys, etc - would've all been a flat finish.  Insiginia colors and artwork, though, I could imagine using a paint with a little more gloss on those.

Is it possible the sheen we're seeing on the horizontal tail is rain, mist, or dew?  The day does look overcast, and the weather there was probably often wet?

[Krusty]

What you might consider "gloss" or "matt" is different on airplanes. Even "matt" finishes could have a sheen on them, especially on a sunny day. To make a plane fully non-reflective at any angle or lighting would require a lot of very rough paint, which would create drag. The paint was formulated to do the best job it could while being as light as possible, weight-wise.

Greebo: The explanation is that the plane is currently shot up and being repaired and has been repaired already. The different color demarcation on the tail joint and the paint shows that they replaced the tail already and painted over the prior markings with fresh green paint (hence the color difference between the rest of the fuselage and the tail unit). The nose cones were interchangeable and were also repainted as damage came up, and put on planes that needed them. Fresh OD looks remarkably different than old OD on B&W film stock. The quality of the film and the quality of its processing and how well it ages can make radically different colors look the same or it can make very similar colors look quite different. This is why color film was created and developed.

I disagree with the interpretation that it was a tri-color flash type of painting on the spinner. That's out of character for similar planes of the time and place and there's little precedent to allow one to draw that kind of conclusion.

[lyric1]

Is it possible the sheen we're seeing on the horizontal tail is rain, mist, or dew?  The day does look overcast, and the weather there was probably often wet?

Seems possible explains the white areas on top of the horizontal stabilizer showing a reflection off of the squadron logo.

Looking at the photos again I agree yellow on both sides for the fin flash is more likely to be the correct arrangement, so I'll change the red flash to yellow.

The one photo that shows the multi-colour scheme for the spinner is the only one that is lit in bright sunlight and from behind the cameraman. The other photos are all shot in poorer light with the angle of the sun putting spinner largely in shadow from the POV of the cameraman. If the spinner was painted just one colour then that does not explain the photo that shows it with a split scheme.

Thinking about this some more we already have an example of a squadron leader KI-61 with two different colour tail squadron emblems. So it is not with out a precedent on this point.

Still shot from the Youtube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ZkXPB1tg4



The 56th Sentai squadron logo is clearly painted in white.
The later logo from the  55th Sentai is red with a white boarder.

Now look at the profile for this aircraft.



The 56th Sentai logo on the other side of the aircraft is yellow.

No colour picture of this side of the plane there is a black and white image though.


So is the 56th Sentai badge the same colour as the white boarder of the 55th Sentai badge? I don't think so.

This side looks to be a match to the profile.

Keeping with the theme of different colour spinner for squadron leader I still think Greebo is correct with the original offering of this skin.

[lyric1]

New photo that was on EBAY.

[Greebo]

Thanks Lyric1, good to have another RH side photo and that is a lot better than the other two.

[lyric1]

Thanks Lyric1, good to have another RH side photo and that is a lot better than the other two.

Anytime.
Now that we have several actual photos in similar lighting conditions.
What colours do we have either side of the tail emblem?

 




If the first stripe on the fuselage from the cockpit is yellow then I would say based off these three photos both tail emblems are yellow.

[Devil 505]

New photo that was on EBAY.

Looks like the spinner is one color here too - probably yellow

[bustr]

Do you guys ever run these jpeg through a coloriser app just to get a Kentucky wind-age idea of the colors?

[Krusty]

There's no validity in such a thing. Colorization is made up.

[Vudu15]

Y'all are some bad sonostudmuffinuns finding and painting these aircraft props to you for your work.

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