Turning Tank in place with pedals without moving forward

[Randy1]

I have tried several TARGET sequence commands but cannot get a tank to turn in place without shifting into forward.  This applies too when you hit shift-S but with a pedal still pressed making you jump back into forward.

It would be nice to turn in place and not have to hit stop again.

[bustr]

How did the tanks of WW2 work when turning? I'm clueless to WW2 tank tech and now very intrigued by your question.

[hitech]

Some tanks like the Tiger II can pivot,  with other tanks it is not possible, they only could brake 1 track, and not have them go opposite directions.

To do the pivot simply press a or d when stopped.

HiTech

[Lusche]

I have tried several TARGET sequence commands but cannot get a tank to turn in place without shifting into forward.

Not all tanks of WW2 were able to do that. Those few that could, for example the Panther, can do it in AH as well.

EDIT: Too slow this time   

[Chalenge]

The British Cruiser tanks could all do this, but none of them are in the game yet. The official name for it is 'neutral turn,' although 'differential steering' and 'multi-gear steering' are often used.

While the Panther could do a neutral turn it was very strenuous upon the transmission and could cause the tank to become abandoned, especially later in the war. Lighter tanks like the Cromwell would show no ill effects from having executed neutral turns.

[bustr]

Never realized I was doing all of this while testing tanks in the alpha and beta for the last two years. Kudos to Hitech and how intuitive driving his tanks has become. I hope he doesn't model in poor transmissions for some tanks as people wish for more realism.

[Chalenge]

I don't think there is a single example of mechanical failure without some user taking a shot at you. Otherwise the F4Us would really have a problem, as would the B-29, P-51 . . . and the majority of perk rides.

[Randy1]

Interesting posts.  Thanks everyone for the replies.

[save]

i remember the Centurion and the S-tank could pivot, IKV91 not.

[Randy1]

Some tanks like the Tiger II can pivot,  with other tanks it is not possible, they only could brake 1 track, and not have them go opposite directions.

To do the pivot simply press a or d when stopped.

HiTech

I ran a test on the panzer H and the T35.  From a stopped position, pressing "D". The tank does kind of tuen in place but then it is in forward and has to be stopped again.

What I had hoped for was a turn in place weather it is it is by advancing right track only or both tracks as an example but then the tank stops once the turn command is lifted.  This would of course only work from a stopped position without any command to move forward.

[Chalenge]

Randy, I think the only way to get what you want would be for the game to use the brakes for individual tracks. Even then the tank would make a small circle, instead of a neutral turn.

[SmokinLoon]

I'll give HTC kudos for modeling the differences between the tanks. Prior to April/May 2011 (when the Panther was introduced), all of the tanks had the same aiming reticule and all of them had the same turn mechanism. Having the ability to pivot in place is a huge advantage most players don't use, and the knowing how to use the German mili-radian site can help with first or second shot hits.  Ultimately, HTC has done a fine job at modeling most things on the tanks especially the armor and angle of impact mechanics.

My only issues are the ease in which follow up shots are made (lack of recoil effects), and the rate of fire for many tanks is too slow. 

It would be nice to see HTC model OUT the continued forward movement when using only the A/D keys.

[Randy1]

I'll give HTC kudos for modeling the differences between the tanks. . . .

. . . It would be nice to see HTC model OUT the continued forward movement when using only the A/D keys.

I agree.  Usually if I question HTC modeling, I find out much of the time it is not the model its is my own lack of knowledge.

[Mano]

Tiger I, Tiger II, Jagdpanther, and Panther G can pivot. With those slow turrets(except the Jag).....you need to pivot while turning turret.   

The poor M-8 probably has the slowest turret and you have to drive forward while turning to put your turret on target.