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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #330 on: October 02, 2016, 02:06:33 PM »
Kids these days need that new fangled glass.
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I hope they don't have occasion to miss the navigator.

I noticed the altitude is 40ft higher for the right side gauge.

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #331 on: October 02, 2016, 03:30:27 PM »
If you flew beta you would have seen him quite often.

He is also a pilot in his own right in real life with some experience in WWII aircraft.

Shuffler, FLS ... indeed. Yet it is not what I said. When he was showing up in Beta he was working. Let me re-phrase, most of the perceived issues need to be experienced by playing the game daily as a regular Joe not and not with a Hitech gamertag. The plane flipping, the eyebrow raising moves, the harassment described, guys flying thru ack numerous time unhurt, hitting a plane with 4-5 burst of 8 50s to keep seeing him flying while losing your tail to a single 20mm hit. All these are 'perceived' and can only be experienced first hand. The stall/P factor relation weirdness is a FM issue to me.

Do not read me wrong about Hitech, he is no Oleg. To me he cares deeply about his product. That Oleg guy had a huge ego regarding his FM and game but could never admit irregularities nor look into it.
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #332 on: October 02, 2016, 03:34:22 PM »
.. Let me re-phrase, most of the perceived issues need to be experienced by playing the game daily as a regular Joe not and not with a Hitech gamertag. ...

Did you miss the shades joke?  :cool:

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #333 on: October 02, 2016, 03:37:46 PM »
It was brilliant  :aok but I remember him mentioning he doesn't use shades <might be outdated info> :old: ... work on a software all day, go home and play the game a few nights a week. That's a receipe for divorce and mental asylum trip.   :uhoh
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #334 on: October 02, 2016, 03:38:47 PM »
I think he said he doesn't pose as a newbie but he does have shades.   :aok

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #335 on: October 02, 2016, 03:40:31 PM »
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #336 on: October 02, 2016, 03:42:59 PM »
It was brilliant  :aok but I remember him mentioning he doesn't use shades <might be outdated info> :old: ... work on a software all day, go home and play the game a few nights a week. That's a receipe for divorce and mental asylum trip.   :uhoh

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #337 on: October 02, 2016, 03:44:43 PM »
I don't know how much of the stuff I mentioned is to be learned from sitting in a hangar Akak.  :ahand
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #338 on: October 02, 2016, 04:15:01 PM »
Shuffler, FLS ... indeed. Yet it is not what I said. When he was showing up in Beta he was working. Let me re-phrase, most of the perceived issues need to be experienced by playing the game daily as a regular Joe not and not with a Hitech gamertag. The plane flipping, the eyebrow raising moves, the harassment described, guys flying thru ack numerous time unhurt, hitting a plane with 4-5 burst of 8 50s to keep seeing him flying while losing your tail to a single 20mm hit. All these are 'perceived' and can only be experienced first hand. The stall/P factor relation weirdness is a FM issue to me.

Do not read me wrong about Hitech, he is no Oleg. To me he cares deeply about his product. That Oleg guy had a huge ego regarding his FM and game but could never admit irregularities nor look into it.

Any AH film sent in has info in it that HiTech can draw from. He sees more than any of us have ever seen in the game. They do not just see the video that we see.
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #339 on: October 02, 2016, 04:21:57 PM »
...The stall/P factor relation weirdness is a FM issue to me.

Literally? Because P-factor is hard to isolate from the other forces expressed in the stall.

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #340 on: October 02, 2016, 04:27:38 PM »
Literally? Because P-factor is hard to isolate from the other forces expressed in the stall.

I isolate the P factor by taking a break every once in a while.  :aok
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #341 on: October 02, 2016, 05:51:45 PM »
Schuffler  :rofl

FLS, nah one or all 4 forces combined between prop, Tq, gyro and P.
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #342 on: October 02, 2016, 06:25:04 PM »
Last night I witnessed several times in one flight these micro warps people are complaining about. Dunno if its a rendering issue or not as at lelast my net status was fine. The other guy didnt warp far. maybe 50-100 feet at a clip but it definitely wasnt something that he could have done maneuver wise as it was a now you see me now you dont ..surprise! Im over here! type thing.

unfortunately I through muscle memory wasnt thinking when I ended mission and didnt save the film
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #343 on: October 02, 2016, 06:57:28 PM »
Last night I witnessed several times in one flight these micro warps people are complaining about. Dunno if its a rendering issue or not as at lelast my net status was fine. The other guy didnt warp far. maybe 50-100 feet at a clip but it definitely wasnt something that he could have done maneuver wise as it was a now you see me now you dont ..surprise! Im over here! type thing.

unfortunately I through muscle memory wasnt thinking when I ended mission and didnt save the film

MA seemed quite warpy last night, lots of people were noticing it.

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #344 on: October 02, 2016, 10:30:33 PM »
Schuffler  :rofl

FLS, nah one or all 4 forces combined between prop, Tq, gyro and P.

What would you have Hitech do differently?  He modeled his RV8 which he flies regularly and acrobatically and that helps him validate his flight model. What sort of input should over-ride his judgement and change fighter performance?